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greetings and salutations friends i am

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so

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i can't tell you how happy i am to be

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here because i just

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drove through another nightmare storm to

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get to the cabin

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and uh i got here with about 15 about

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15 minutes before 9pm

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so i knowing that i had a very important

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interview today

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this has been very stressful start to

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this uh

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to tonight but uh i'm in my right place

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i'm at the right time uh and and our

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guest

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is uh in our green room waiting

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uh i can't tell you i first

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he i first started hearing about michael

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stratt when it came to

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black project research and boy

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i was really incredibly impressed

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i was incredibly impressed with his work

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on

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both ufos and black projects it seemed

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to me that

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he uh was a dogged researcher

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going through every lead to get to

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the truth behind some of these great

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mysteries

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and i had to respect that of course so

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uh i began to follow him and i would

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listen to

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every appearance if there was a

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conference appearance he did which was

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uh which was put on youtube i would

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watch

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it and i've been following his work for

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most recently we just discussed his

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brand new book dark files which is an

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amazing

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book which covers a lot of different

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little-known ufo cases so

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uh his research has been uh

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inspirational at least to me

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that he does only made me

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more interested and i began to hear some

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interesting stories about

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mr schrat and we're going to get to

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dive a little deeper into some of those

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things that i've heard

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some of them may be rumors but some of

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so yeah his most recent book

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is uh really really probably my favorite

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book that i've gotten on ufos in the

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last

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decade it's called dark files of

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pictorial history

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lost forgotten and obscure ufo

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book one and it's interesting to me is

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that this is just book one

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he's got a treasure trove of information

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on this on this on these incredible

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subjects

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so and please bear with me friends i'm

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having a real tough time

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here it's bad enough that stream yard

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forces me to use windows nail stream

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yard is forcing me to use

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firefox on top of that windows and

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think that that is not not fair

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whatsoever

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and uh it's interesting that paul

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heineck wrote the uh

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forward to his new book and uh

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it's really uh we're gonna we're gonna

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dive into it

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and uh one second i'm just trying to get

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michael schrad has been an important

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boy big word indefatigable researcher in

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dark files he has done for ufology what

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he has brought it to life with the

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summaries the engineered

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and that i would definitely agree with

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in doing so he made these cases

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effectively available for more than a

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handful of researchers who have read or

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this wonderful work michael has

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i would have to agree one of the best

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ufos you're going to love this book

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so without further ado let's welcome our

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very special guest

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good i'm happy i'm happy that i didn't

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screw this up tonight i

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i had a real tough time getting here and

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getting everything set up

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everything's kind of temporary here i'm

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not in my usual studio so you'll have to

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forgive me if i'm a little bit out of

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sorts but i think we're okay

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that's fine that's okay so i'm gonna i'm

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gonna ask you some

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i have a whole list of questions and i

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hope we get through through most of them

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because uh you know i've heard you

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interviewed before but there's a lot of

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that i i know people haven't asked you

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and one of the things i was most curious

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about is what got you started down this

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because you are one of those people that

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uh you know i see some of my own

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obsession in you like you're obsessed

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with this thing you're collecting

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things you're writing things you're

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drawing things you're going on tv shows

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talking about this stuff

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what is it that got you started okay

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uh well from my earliest memory

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my dad used to take me to a place called

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victory air museum

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in mondeline illinois and it was cool

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near chicago and what they had stephen

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world war ii birds but they were just

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parked out in this field

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they were deserted and they were

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derelict and they were disrepaired and

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they were forgotten and

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oxidized and the windshields were

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cracked and they had weeds growing up

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it just had this ghostly otherworldly

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never looked back from that point

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so ufos so ufos to you is just an

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aircraft then

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of all aviation and and he's gonna take

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every year and we would see either the

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thunderbirds or the blue angels and then

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a jet airplane an old one like an f4

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phantom but it was still awesome to me

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mark rodiger the director there he gave

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access to the entire qfos library for

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three years straight

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and i went through 60 000 cases there it

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really did go through all of them

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wow that's interesting so so when though

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the jump

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earth aircraft let's call them the ufos

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happen what was the first

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thing that really got you interested in

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right right run around 94 is when it

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i would say that one frame yep yeah and

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commission people

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also to do these illustrations and this

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this book is like every every other page

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that was the idea you know because when

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gray barker collection in clarksburg

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um yeah they read dry right so they need

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yeah their illustration yeah i only pull

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a really good description a really good

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and a flight path if it had those three

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rough they needed to be cleaned up

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or if it was really biological looking

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artwork commission and then make it come

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alive that was the whole point of it

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uh you know this this forward is dead on

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book i heard of some of them some of my

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never even heard of

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and i've been into this thing forever so

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because you're gonna open those cases up

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to whole new generations of people that

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may never have been exposed to them and

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the use of this amazing artwork really

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brings them to life

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it's not just words on a page because

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sometimes these you

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you know i'm sure you've got them

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there's ufo reports and mufon reports

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of sightings and they just read like you

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know like a bad

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science teacher wrote them you know and

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they're not they're not very engaging or

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interesting but the addition of these

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illustrations

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right and you did these all right from

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the witness descriptions

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or original sketches right well tom

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bogan gets the credit he he's in the

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book he's in the forward part of the

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he gets the credit for the majority of

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the color

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artwork now there's some in there that

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i've done and some of the line drawings

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i've done but

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some of the you know the best color

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artwork that's his work you know

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but what's interesting is when i did

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these illustrations with tom

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we use google earth stephen so what that

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when we go back to these cases that are

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40 or 50 years old

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and someone tells you that they parked a

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quarter mile west of such and such an

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inter intersection we take you there

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plus or minus five feet

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so you're looking at exactly where these

288
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things took place

289
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wow yeah that's very very interesting

290
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and now

291
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of course because i'm in firefox i'm

292
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having trouble sharing this

293
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but i'll get to it as i we can progress

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with with more

295
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questions i have one big other question

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and i don't want you to take this the

297
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wrong way

298
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yeah but a few of people in my audience

299
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have said the same thing

300
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and and wondered the same thing i

301
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followed everything that

302
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i've seen you do yeah but the one thing

303
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i saw you do that i went hmm

304
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that's weird why would he spend so much

305
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time on this

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was uh you did this

307
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it was incredible work i have to say you

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did

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this huge uh illustrated drawings

310
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and sort of lecture with slides on the

311
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dan burrish case

312
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that's true that's true and i wanted to

313
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ask you do you fight did you

314
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was was there something about him that

315
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you first found credible and later

316
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didn't

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or or how do you feel about him now

318
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i think i've changed my mind on that

319
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case now

320
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for a number of reasons one of them

321
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being the fact that

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allegedly this facility called s4

323
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is there in papua's lake however there's

324
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no test pilots that have ever

325
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even admitted there being a facility

326
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there they would know right because they

327
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flew around that whole area

328
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yeah and there's been recent flyovers

329
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allowed yeah there's been a recent flood

330
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solar solar marshal uh he's got

331
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he's got the goods on that and there's

332
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pictures and there's zero there there's

333
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no guard shack there's no road

334
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and and you know people like bob lazar

335
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or burris described

336
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taking a bus after they got off the

337
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janet airline and you couldn't get a bus

338
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through this desert sand for 50 miles to

339
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this

340
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remote location it just worked

341
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of the hangar bays with the textured

342
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exterior where's the evidence of that

343
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where is the evidence that you know

344
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pilots flying over

345
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they would have seen something after all

346
00:14:36,069 --> 00:14:34,639
these years

347
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they never reported anything there

348
00:14:41,350 --> 00:14:38,639
there's no operating facility there

349
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there's just nothing there well yeah and

350
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i think that we get into the situation

351
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of ufo profiteering that seems to be a

352
00:14:49,509 --> 00:14:46,639
problem because

353
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then people start make just to me people

354
00:14:52,629 --> 00:14:50,880
are just making things up

355
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you know to sell the story they go well

356
00:14:56,150 --> 00:14:54,320
we've corroborated this story with

357
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people that we're sure

358
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and we checked into really worked at

359
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area 51 and then i go

360
00:15:04,710 --> 00:15:02,560
okay what's their names what was their

361
00:15:05,189 --> 00:15:04,720
titles can i speak to them and interview

362
00:15:08,069 --> 00:15:05,199
them

363
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and verify this and you never get there

364
00:15:11,590 --> 00:15:09,040
it's like

365
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all the information that's coming out

366
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about this

367
00:15:17,829 --> 00:15:15,760
so-called flying saucer base is very

368
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very flawed and dan burrish of course

369
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very flawed

370
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too when we dig into his background

371
00:15:25,509 --> 00:15:24,240
i mean he was supposed to be a biologist

372
00:15:29,269 --> 00:15:25,519
there while he was

373
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a parole officer in las vegas you know

374
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there's so there's just everything is

375
00:15:35,430 --> 00:15:33,279
always like this story sounds great

376
00:15:36,470 --> 00:15:35,440
there's just one big problem with it you

377
00:15:38,550 --> 00:15:36,480
know and the same for

378
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bob lazar with his education and i know

379
00:15:43,350 --> 00:15:40,560
you've done a lot of great work on

380
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the bob lazar case as well right sure

381
00:15:46,310 --> 00:15:43,920
yep

382
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mm-hmm and isn't is that one that one if

383
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i had

384
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when i was growing up i loved that story

385
00:15:53,509 --> 00:15:50,800
i wanted that to be real

386
00:15:53,990 --> 00:15:53,519
i so wanted that to be real you know

387
00:15:55,990 --> 00:15:54,000
just as

388
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time went on and it got worse and worse

389
00:15:59,110 --> 00:15:57,519
and you get to like okay he's a

390
00:16:02,069 --> 00:15:59,120
convicted pimp now

391
00:16:02,470 --> 00:16:02,079
and like his education is terrible you

392
00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:02,480
know

393
00:16:06,949 --> 00:16:05,680
and fake what was it about the bob lazar

394
00:16:10,150 --> 00:16:06,959
case that attracted you

395
00:16:11,990 --> 00:16:10,160
did you know well you know looking into

396
00:16:12,870 --> 00:16:12,000
some of the things that john andrews had

397
00:16:15,189 --> 00:16:12,880
collected

398
00:16:17,990 --> 00:16:15,199
because he spoke to bob oh yeah i wanted

399
00:16:19,590 --> 00:16:18,000
to mention that yeah i mean

400
00:16:21,509 --> 00:16:19,600
yeah one of my other questions was going

401
00:16:22,870 --> 00:16:21,519
to be you know or or one of the other

402
00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:22,880
things we're going to explore is that

403
00:16:26,629 --> 00:16:23,360
you

404
00:16:28,949 --> 00:16:26,639
uh are a bit of a historian and

405
00:16:30,710 --> 00:16:28,959
a conservationist when it comes to ufo

406
00:16:31,509 --> 00:16:30,720
material john andrews for those that

407
00:16:34,069 --> 00:16:31,519
don't know

408
00:16:35,670 --> 00:16:34,079
is responsible for all those cool models

409
00:16:36,069 --> 00:16:35,680
that came out of testers when you were a

410
00:16:38,629 --> 00:16:36,079
kid

411
00:16:39,430 --> 00:16:38,639
all the ufo models the honey boo the

412
00:16:41,829 --> 00:16:39,440
sport model

413
00:16:42,790 --> 00:16:41,839
and all of the you know like the stealth

414
00:16:45,430 --> 00:16:42,800
bomber

415
00:16:46,150 --> 00:16:45,440
he did all the cool airplane models for

416
00:16:49,590 --> 00:16:46,160
testers

417
00:16:51,670 --> 00:16:49,600
and somehow michael got a hold of his

418
00:16:52,790 --> 00:16:51,680
all of his papers right and everything

419
00:16:55,990 --> 00:16:52,800
his whole archive

420
00:16:57,910 --> 00:16:56,000
of material right that is correct yes

421
00:16:59,749 --> 00:16:57,920
yes and i first the first time i that

422
00:17:01,749 --> 00:16:59,759
i've ever communicated with michael was

423
00:17:04,309 --> 00:17:01,759
because i was trying to find out

424
00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:04,319
how much exactly bob lazar made from the

425
00:17:10,150 --> 00:17:07,360
tester's model deal

426
00:17:12,789 --> 00:17:10,160
yeah yeah so what do you what are you

427
00:17:15,429 --> 00:17:12,799
doing with all this john andrews stuff

428
00:17:17,110 --> 00:17:15,439
well i'll incorporate it into a lot of

429
00:17:19,110 --> 00:17:17,120
different things for sure but

430
00:17:21,029 --> 00:17:19,120
it was an honor it was a privilege to

431
00:17:22,630 --> 00:17:21,039
acquire the collection i mean

432
00:17:24,069 --> 00:17:22,640
one of the highlights of my life no

433
00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:24,079
question about it

434
00:17:29,990 --> 00:17:27,520
because john was such a gentleman

435
00:17:31,029 --> 00:17:30,000
i only met him once but he was such a

436
00:17:34,230 --> 00:17:31,039
gentleman

437
00:17:36,070 --> 00:17:34,240
he could take a photograph and

438
00:17:37,350 --> 00:17:36,080
derive a three-view drawing from a

439
00:17:39,029 --> 00:17:37,360
blurry photograph

440
00:17:41,029 --> 00:17:39,039
five miles away that's how good this guy

441
00:17:43,510 --> 00:17:41,039
was he was the best of the best

442
00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:43,520
really the best of the best and yeah a

443
00:17:45,990 --> 00:17:45,360
lot of people respondents with a lot of

444
00:17:48,789 --> 00:17:46,000
different people

445
00:17:50,070 --> 00:17:48,799
in there and uh the guy was brilliant no

446
00:17:51,669 --> 00:17:50,080
question about it

447
00:17:53,590 --> 00:17:51,679
people are asking about your latest book

448
00:17:54,150 --> 00:17:53,600
so it's only available in ebook format

449
00:17:56,630 --> 00:17:54,160
is that right

450
00:17:58,870 --> 00:17:56,640
correct i am going to make a hard cover

451
00:18:00,230 --> 00:17:58,880
or a soft cover something i want a copy

452
00:18:01,029 --> 00:18:00,240
when you do i'll pay you whatever you

453
00:18:03,029 --> 00:18:01,039
want for it

454
00:18:04,390 --> 00:18:03,039
this is one of my favorite new books i

455
00:18:06,070 --> 00:18:04,400
you know i couldn't put it down until i

456
00:18:06,950 --> 00:18:06,080
was done and then i read it again and

457
00:18:08,310 --> 00:18:06,960
looked at the p

458
00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:08,320
and now i just look at the pictures and

459
00:18:13,029 --> 00:18:10,240
go wow

460
00:18:15,190 --> 00:18:13,039
that's pretty much what i do so the the

461
00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:15,200
the deal with john andrews is that

462
00:18:18,230 --> 00:18:17,440
he was not just a model maker he had an

463
00:18:20,630 --> 00:18:18,240
interest in

464
00:18:21,270 --> 00:18:20,640
in like the bob lazar case and ufos and

465
00:18:23,669 --> 00:18:21,280
he was

466
00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:23,679
corresponding a lot with bob lazar right

467
00:18:27,430 --> 00:18:25,360
and you have so

468
00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:27,440
the original audio tapes were a part of

469
00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:28,720
that collection

470
00:18:32,789 --> 00:18:31,120
the original interview audio tapes that

471
00:18:34,950 --> 00:18:32,799
were used to create the model

472
00:18:37,029 --> 00:18:34,960
were a part of that collection oh that's

473
00:18:39,909 --> 00:18:37,039
amazing i gotta test your arm and

474
00:18:40,950 --> 00:18:39,919
figure that thing out because yeah one

475
00:18:43,110 --> 00:18:40,960
of the things that

476
00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:43,120
that michael schrad also did is do a

477
00:18:49,029 --> 00:18:45,600
comparison a side-by-side comparison

478
00:18:50,950 --> 00:18:49,039
of bob lazar's sport model

479
00:18:52,390 --> 00:18:50,960
and billy meyer's beam ship and for

480
00:18:55,510 --> 00:18:52,400
those that don't know billy meyer

481
00:18:55,990 --> 00:18:55,520
like made fake ufos out of trashcan lids

482
00:18:58,470 --> 00:18:56,000
and and

483
00:18:59,990 --> 00:18:58,480
hubcaps and things and then he hung him

484
00:19:02,070 --> 00:19:00,000
on strings and claimed that he was

485
00:19:03,190 --> 00:19:02,080
talking to aliens and he's been busted

486
00:19:05,510 --> 00:19:03,200
as a fraud

487
00:19:07,669 --> 00:19:05,520
and it's interesting a historical note

488
00:19:09,110 --> 00:19:07,679
is that bob lazar and gene huff got all

489
00:19:11,190 --> 00:19:09,120
the billy myer material

490
00:19:12,630 --> 00:19:11,200
right before bob lazar decided that he

491
00:19:14,549 --> 00:19:12,640
was working on these things

492
00:19:16,789 --> 00:19:14,559
and his flying saucer that he says he

493
00:19:17,350 --> 00:19:16,799
worked on looks exactly like billy myers

494
00:19:19,029 --> 00:19:17,360
almost

495
00:19:22,230 --> 00:19:19,039
michael did an amazing photo couldn't

496
00:19:24,150 --> 00:19:22,240
say it any better than that

497
00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:24,160
yeah and if you look on my twitter i'm

498
00:19:26,230 --> 00:19:25,520
sorry i'm having a real trouble with

499
00:19:29,029 --> 00:19:26,240
this uh

500
00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:29,039
with this screen sharing right now uh if

501
00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:30,320
you look on my twitter

502
00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:32,640
i just posted that yesterday the

503
00:19:36,950 --> 00:19:33,760
comparison video

504
00:19:39,270 --> 00:19:36,960
the comparison illustration between

505
00:19:39,990 --> 00:19:39,280
bob lazar and billy myers so do you

506
00:19:43,110 --> 00:19:40,000
think that

507
00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:43,120
that bob lazar copied that it's too it's

508
00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:44,400
too similar

509
00:19:51,029 --> 00:19:48,000
just don't know but

510
00:19:53,029 --> 00:19:51,039
here's the question i talk about bob

511
00:19:54,310 --> 00:19:53,039
talked about on a number of occasions in

512
00:19:57,110 --> 00:19:54,320
interviews where

513
00:19:58,310 --> 00:19:57,120
he had to reach above his head to touch

514
00:20:00,789 --> 00:19:58,320
the outer rim

515
00:20:01,590 --> 00:20:00,799
of the sport model right and if you know

516
00:20:04,710 --> 00:20:01,600
anything about

517
00:20:08,149 --> 00:20:04,720
the entry hatch on the sport model

518
00:20:09,909 --> 00:20:08,159
it is integrated into that outer lip

519
00:20:11,669 --> 00:20:09,919
so it wraps around the bottom just a

520
00:20:12,149 --> 00:20:11,679
little bit and then it wraps around the

521
00:20:15,350 --> 00:20:12,159
top

522
00:20:17,270 --> 00:20:15,360
of the outer rim but if the

523
00:20:18,470 --> 00:20:17,280
grays are three and a half to four feet

524
00:20:21,190 --> 00:20:18,480
tall

525
00:20:23,270 --> 00:20:21,200
and the entry hatch is above his head

526
00:20:25,830 --> 00:20:23,280
how did the grays get into the craft

527
00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:25,840
i know i didn't see a ladder yes i

528
00:20:28,870 --> 00:20:27,360
didn't see a ladder

529
00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:28,880
there's a lot of there's a lot of

530
00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:30,720
inconsistencies and there and

531
00:20:33,990 --> 00:20:32,320
another thing i think solar word

532
00:20:36,070 --> 00:20:34,000
imported the south and this is great

533
00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:36,080
and he stumped he got bob lazar to like

534
00:20:39,270 --> 00:20:37,919
go hmm that's a great question and bob

535
00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:39,280
azar had to go away

536
00:20:43,430 --> 00:20:41,600
and figure out an answer bob lazar

537
00:20:46,470 --> 00:20:43,440
claimed that when you turned this

538
00:20:48,070 --> 00:20:46,480
this uh propulsion system on you know

539
00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:48,080
you could throw a screwdriver

540
00:20:51,909 --> 00:20:49,760
at it and it would bounce off and all

541
00:20:53,510 --> 00:20:51,919
these other things and so

542
00:20:54,950 --> 00:20:53,520
his question was well then how did you

543
00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:54,960
turn it off

544
00:20:59,830 --> 00:20:58,000
you know because it was all he had no

545
00:21:02,950 --> 00:20:59,840
answer

546
00:21:05,909 --> 00:21:02,960
you know isn't that entire area publicly

547
00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:05,919
irradiated yes that's another thing and

548
00:21:08,470 --> 00:21:06,400
you know

549
00:21:09,750 --> 00:21:08,480
there will be dose badges right stephen

550
00:21:15,750 --> 00:21:09,760
there would be

551
00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:17,350
you yep go to the atomic energy

552
00:21:22,070 --> 00:21:18,880
commission and get

553
00:21:24,549 --> 00:21:22,080
uh get some data on how just how

554
00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:24,559
irradiated that area was

555
00:21:28,070 --> 00:21:26,240
if the united states government were to

556
00:21:29,029 --> 00:21:28,080
be stupid enough to put a base there and

557
00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:29,039
make people spend

558
00:21:32,630 --> 00:21:31,039
a significant amount of time there that

559
00:21:35,029 --> 00:21:32,640
would be a huge liability people would

560
00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:35,039
be dropping dead left and right from

561
00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:37,440
you know radiation related sicknesses

562
00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:39,760
and cancer and things

563
00:21:43,590 --> 00:21:41,520
because you can go to the atomic testing

564
00:21:46,390 --> 00:21:43,600
museum in las vegas

565
00:21:47,830 --> 00:21:46,400
and when you go through the exhibit hall

566
00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:47,840
and you wrap around

567
00:21:51,430 --> 00:21:50,320
just before it ends there's a glass case

568
00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:51,440
on the right hand side

569
00:21:55,510 --> 00:21:53,760
they've got like 30 different examples

570
00:21:56,630 --> 00:21:55,520
of dose badges there that people would

571
00:21:58,630 --> 00:21:56,640
wear on their

572
00:22:00,149 --> 00:21:58,640
on their lapel and on their shoulder

573
00:22:02,070 --> 00:22:00,159
area

574
00:22:04,310 --> 00:22:02,080
there was never any mention of dose

575
00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:04,320
badges at escort

576
00:22:07,990 --> 00:22:06,559
but you know what is interesting is that

577
00:22:11,110 --> 00:22:08,000
i have at least

578
00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:11,120
a few sources plus john leer who

579
00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:13,760
who tell me with some confidence that

580
00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:14,960
bob lazar

581
00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:17,120
worked on radiation health monitoring

582
00:22:22,870 --> 00:22:19,440
equipment around

583
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:22,880
nellis and and area 51. so

584
00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:25,120
uh that's interesting he should know

585
00:22:30,549 --> 00:22:27,200
better than he should know about these

586
00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:30,559
these dose badges sure sure

587
00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:34,080
yeah you got it yeah so you

588
00:22:39,909 --> 00:22:37,440
beside this uh this dark files

589
00:22:41,190 --> 00:22:39,919
you know can you tell us about the

590
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:41,200
creation of that and

591
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:43,919
you got another whole archive of stuff

592
00:22:46,950 --> 00:22:45,840
that some of this stuff came out of

593
00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:46,960
right

594
00:22:50,149 --> 00:22:49,360
yeah there i drew it from all different

595
00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:50,159
locations

596
00:22:56,470 --> 00:22:53,200
qfos orange county mufon

597
00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:56,480
uh certainly the clarksburg west

598
00:22:59,510 --> 00:22:57,919
virginia archives

599
00:23:02,070 --> 00:22:59,520
things that i've collected over the last

600
00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:02,080
30 years and that's kind of how it all

601
00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:03,440
got started but

602
00:23:07,909 --> 00:23:06,240
i wanted to put this in a concise format

603
00:23:08,710 --> 00:23:07,919
that could people could read in one day

604
00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:08,720
period

605
00:23:11,909 --> 00:23:10,799
you know i don't want it to drag on for

606
00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:11,919
four weeks

607
00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:13,840
get it done in one day and you'll you'll

608
00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:15,440
have it you know you gotta

609
00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:18,960
be done in one day for sure oh finally i

610
00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:21,039
finally got firefox to work so we can

611
00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:22,880
share some of the some of the stuff

612
00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:25,039
from the book but but what i mean is

613
00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:26,640
that a lot of these cases are a little

614
00:23:30,149 --> 00:23:28,320
known and didn't you have a certain

615
00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:30,159
archive that you were drawing some of

616
00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:32,320
the some of the case files from

617
00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:35,120
yeah from qfos from the qfos archives

618
00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:35,760
yeah

619
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:37,440
some of those cases were buried there

620
00:23:41,909 --> 00:23:39,600
for 40 years they'd still be there

621
00:23:43,510 --> 00:23:41,919
uh if someone didn't dig them out what i

622
00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:43,520
always thought was weird is

623
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:46,240
going there for three years nobody else

624
00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:47,760
was there

625
00:23:51,909 --> 00:23:50,559
nobody else used the the library they

626
00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:51,919
didn't take advantage of it

627
00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:54,320
which shocks me you know it's just yeah

628
00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:54,960
and we just

629
00:23:59,110 --> 00:23:56,880
we just talked about it i don't know why

630
00:24:00,789 --> 00:23:59,120
but there was a university and about an

631
00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:00,799
hour from me that the stanton friedman

632
00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:03,200
archive first got sent to

633
00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:05,600
and i was gonna go and grant cameron

634
00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:06,240
went

635
00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:08,320
and and told me that you you would need

636
00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:10,080
a month to go through all of the state

637
00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:11,200
and freedom

638
00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:12,640
stuff they didn't have it very well

639
00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:14,400
organized and now they've sent it on to

640
00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:15,200
canada so

641
00:24:19,350 --> 00:24:17,600
now to see it i've got to go to canada

642
00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:19,360
but you've spent a lot of time going

643
00:24:23,669 --> 00:24:20,080
through

644
00:24:26,630 --> 00:24:23,679
we're sort of uh passed away

645
00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:26,640
researchers or people you're pure

646
00:24:30,149 --> 00:24:27,520
archives right

647
00:24:32,310 --> 00:24:30,159
definitely yes and i talked about these

648
00:24:33,110 --> 00:24:32,320
stories that i hear i hear that you have

649
00:24:35,590 --> 00:24:33,120
this huge

650
00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:35,600
monstrous collection of ufo-related

651
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:37,760
material like you got a warehouse full

652
00:24:40,950 --> 00:24:38,400
of stuff

653
00:24:42,310 --> 00:24:40,960
is that accurate uh more than one more

654
00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:42,320
than one

655
00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:44,400
you've got actually i didn't want to say

656
00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:45,520
it because i don't want to embarrass you

657
00:24:49,750 --> 00:24:47,200
but i've heard you got three

658
00:24:50,870 --> 00:24:49,760
i heard you got three warehouses full of

659
00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:50,880
ufo stuff

660
00:24:56,710 --> 00:24:54,000
well no single point failure right wow

661
00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:56,720
that's it and where did you get it all

662
00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:59,360
just been collecting it for 30 years 35

663
00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:00,240
years

664
00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:03,440
wow go to different archives people

665
00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:04,720
donated things to me

666
00:25:09,190 --> 00:25:06,960
and i just held on to it you know plus

667
00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:09,200
i've been interviewing people and

668
00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:11,279
taking their notes sketches putting it

669
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:12,720
all together and didn't throw anything

670
00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:15,360
out so there's enough material to

671
00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:18,720
last for the next ice age wow

672
00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:21,520
yeah that's really really interesting to

673
00:25:24,549 --> 00:25:22,799
me that you uh

674
00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:24,559
that you you really are obsessed enough

675
00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:26,000
to collect that much stuff

676
00:25:31,669 --> 00:25:29,440
because somebody's gonna yeah i guess

677
00:25:32,470 --> 00:25:31,679
for future generations right like you

678
00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:32,480
don't want

679
00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:36,640
to go to waste

680
00:25:40,390 --> 00:25:38,640
and a lot of times if somebody dies you

681
00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:40,400
know their their relatives might not

682
00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:42,240
know the significance or importance of

683
00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:42,880
it

684
00:25:45,909 --> 00:25:44,960
so you go and kind of talk to the family

685
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:45,919
and and

686
00:25:49,669 --> 00:25:47,200
you know let them know that it's

687
00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:49,679
important to preserve some of that stuff

688
00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:52,880
i can give you an example um there was a

689
00:25:57,110 --> 00:25:54,640
researcher called joel

690
00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:57,120
carpenter he's almost completely unknown

691
00:26:01,510 --> 00:25:58,400
in this field

692
00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:01,520
he passed away a while ago his father

693
00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:04,080
contacted me and said you know basically

694
00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:05,120
he said

695
00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:07,039
i've got four boxes waiting for you if

696
00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:08,960
you want him so i jumped on a plane flow

697
00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:10,880
all the way over there and got him

698
00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:12,640
and he was going to throw him out so

699
00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:14,480
that's how you have to save it

700
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:16,000
wow you have to save these things we

701
00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:17,360
have to preserve an important part of

702
00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:19,520
our national history you know

703
00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:21,520
yeah and we talked about we talked about

704
00:26:25,590 --> 00:26:22,880
some other recent people that have

705
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:25,600
passed away and and you you basically

706
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:27,679
anybody that passes away you try to at

707
00:26:30,230 --> 00:26:28,640
least see

708
00:26:32,549 --> 00:26:30,240
what you can do to preserve some of that

709
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:32,559
stuff right yeah definitely

710
00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:36,320
definitely wow so

711
00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:39,279
you know along with uh along with ufos

712
00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:40,559
you you've also had this

713
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:43,279
incredible interest in aviation and and

714
00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:45,120
really high-tech things and you and i

715
00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:46,960
talked off-air about

716
00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:50,640
um about uh

717
00:27:00,870 --> 00:26:57,830
right yeah that is correct yes

718
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:00,880
you were kind of a fan of his

719
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:04,320
uh a fan and a friend yes i considered

720
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:07,440
him a father figure

721
00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:10,080
very good we did uh quite a bit of

722
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:11,679
artwork together

723
00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:13,840
and uh there's a highlight of my life

724
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:16,080
doing drawings with him highlight of my

725
00:27:19,110 --> 00:27:16,480
life

726
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:19,120
it's just a religious experience just

727
00:27:23,669 --> 00:27:20,960
telling it like it is

728
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:23,679
and how how do you feel about the recent

729
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:24,480
problems

730
00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:28,240
uh or the recent conspiracy land fairy

731
00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:29,440
tales about his

732
00:27:37,909 --> 00:27:33,840
tragic death i think it's a straight

733
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:37,919
case i don't know if i believe in

734
00:27:42,149 --> 00:27:40,480
what we we're hearing i just think it's

735
00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:42,159
it's a straightforward case

736
00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:44,080
you know yeah because well you presented

737
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:45,520
that first time

738
00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:48,000
i think i believe what you presented

739
00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:49,520
yeah and people don't know but people

740
00:27:53,830 --> 00:27:51,279
like michael stratton others did do some

741
00:27:56,310 --> 00:27:53,840
of their own independent work to see

742
00:27:57,669 --> 00:27:56,320
you know if there was anything to these

743
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:57,679
fairy tales and these

744
00:28:01,830 --> 00:28:00,240
conspiracy land you know but to me it

745
00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:01,840
just seemed like people trying to profit

746
00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:03,520
from a man's death which really rubbed

747
00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:04,640
me the wrong way

748
00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:06,799
you know right you know i developed a

749
00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:08,880
good assessment very good assessment

750
00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:11,360
yeah thank you and i grew up you know

751
00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:13,440
looking at mark mccandless high-tech

752
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:15,360
drawings of airplanes and getting very

753
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:17,600
inspired to build rockets and stuff

754
00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:20,880
so you know it's a really tragic loss

755
00:28:25,269 --> 00:28:22,640
for the world don't you think

756
00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:25,279
oh no doubt i mean i've said it before

757
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:26,960
there will never be another mark

758
00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:27,760
mccandless

759
00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:29,279
no way and you know you're talking about

760
00:28:33,430 --> 00:28:31,200
seeing his artwork and being inspired by

761
00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:33,440
it absolutely i was inspired

762
00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:35,520
seeing the cover of popular mechanics

763
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:37,120
and popular science

764
00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:39,520
where he had these photo realistic color

765
00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:41,840
illustrations that jumped off the page

766
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:44,799
and grabbed you grabbed your attention

767
00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:46,000
it's otherworldly

768
00:28:49,909 --> 00:28:48,240
there's no one that can do that

769
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:49,919
especially photo realistic

770
00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:52,720
it looks like a photograph yeah you know

771
00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:54,559
you can you can go down to the

772
00:29:00,710 --> 00:28:57,520
uh naval air museum in pensacola they

773
00:29:02,789 --> 00:29:00,720
have one of his original paintings there

774
00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:02,799
the the painting of the f-14 coming off

775
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:04,399
the aircraft carrier

776
00:29:10,630 --> 00:29:08,000
if you look at the starboard part of the

777
00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:10,640
boat of the aircraft carrier where the

778
00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:13,279
water line meets the hull

779
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:16,640
mark has this splashing wave

780
00:29:19,909 --> 00:29:18,960
that is like splashing up against the

781
00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:19,919
steel

782
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:22,159
hull of the ship and then he's he has

783
00:29:26,070 --> 00:29:23,440
this water

784
00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:26,080
that's still adhering toward the side

785
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:28,000
walls of the ship and it's like dripping

786
00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:29,360
down

787
00:29:32,950 --> 00:29:30,720
mark's the only one that could do that i

788
00:29:34,950 --> 00:29:32,960
mean you know or would think to do that

789
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:34,960
much detail on a splash

790
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:36,720
right yeah he seemed to be very

791
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:38,640
detail-oriented all

792
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:41,679
all of his lines were completely crisp

793
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:44,240
they were sharp they were like pinpoint

794
00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:45,600
accuracy and then

795
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:47,840
his shading he used to tell me like he

796
00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:48,880
would uh

797
00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:50,640
channel da vinci when he shades his

798
00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:52,960
drawing now he was kidding of course but

799
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:53,600
just talking

800
00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:56,159
about that and it is that the level of

801
00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:57,039
shading

802
00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:59,039
that he does on these drawings is

803
00:30:01,990 --> 00:30:01,200
otherworldly there's no one that can do

804
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:02,000
it

805
00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:04,720
he just had this i had some things where

806
00:30:08,149 --> 00:30:06,799
i gave him a concept i gave him a

807
00:30:10,230 --> 00:30:08,159
all the reference works all the

808
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:10,240
materials but then there were things

809
00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:11,760
about houses that

810
00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:13,440
i wasn't sure about i'm like mark just

811
00:30:16,230 --> 00:30:15,279
go with it and i'd sit there and watch

812
00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:16,240
him draw

813
00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:19,200
and he'd just draw houses perfectly

814
00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:20,159
scaled

815
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:22,880
from nothing just from his own brain was

816
00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:24,960
incredible

817
00:30:29,269 --> 00:30:27,919
i miss it yeah and i'm sure i'm sure

818
00:30:30,149 --> 00:30:29,279
we're going to continue to miss it

819
00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:30,159
somebody is

820
00:30:33,669 --> 00:30:33,039
uh is asking what your opinion is on

821
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:33,679
william

822
00:30:43,269 --> 00:30:41,440
uh genius guy for sure and if anyone

823
00:30:45,269 --> 00:30:43,279
wants to see his work

824
00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:45,279
you can go to the miniature engineering

825
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:47,279
museum in carlsbad where they have his

826
00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:48,480
original ships

827
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:50,240
and they look like they were built

828
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:51,600
yesterday

829
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:54,320
it sounds interesting it's unreal but

830
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:55,760
what do you think of his stories about

831
00:30:59,669 --> 00:30:56,799
aliens and stuff

832
00:31:01,509 --> 00:30:59,679
i just don't know i've read that book i

833
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:01,519
read the book and it read like a horny

834
00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:04,080
old man to me he was like

835
00:31:07,509 --> 00:31:06,240
all the aliens were hot chicks that

836
00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:07,519
wanted to bang him

837
00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:10,720
right i don't know yeah

838
00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:13,120
they were all like hot nordic chicks

839
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:15,440
with big breasts that wanted to bang you

840
00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:18,480
what do you know yeah

841
00:31:25,350 --> 00:31:22,080
uh i know interesting character for sure

842
00:31:26,789 --> 00:31:25,360
yeah and somebody else is asking uh

843
00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:26,799
michael what do you think is happening

844
00:31:31,909 --> 00:31:29,279
in the exo field these days

845
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:31,919
um can you be more specific about exo

846
00:31:36,310 --> 00:31:32,880
field

847
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:36,320
yeah i'm not quite sure yeah i'm not

848
00:31:41,430 --> 00:31:38,080
quite sure

849
00:31:43,509 --> 00:31:41,440
uh maybe actually i'm not sure

850
00:31:45,669 --> 00:31:43,519
see here here's the thing we're getting

851
00:31:47,350 --> 00:31:45,679
a lot of ufo people in here that

852
00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:47,360
just want to know what you think about

853
00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:49,200
different things so victor cagliaro is

854
00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:49,679
here

855
00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:51,919
all the way from australia and he says

856
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:53,440
i'd like to know michael thought

857
00:31:57,029 --> 00:31:55,600
michael's thoughts on the westfall ufo

858
00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:57,039
case in australia

859
00:32:00,630 --> 00:31:59,120
yeah we can cover that if we want to go

860
00:32:03,029 --> 00:32:00,640
into it uh

861
00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:03,039
i have the book pulled up but i have to

862
00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:04,960
share my screen right

863
00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:06,559
yeah can you share your screen because

864
00:32:09,990 --> 00:32:08,080
i'm having a real hard time here

865
00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:10,000
i just have to allow it once you share

866
00:32:14,870 --> 00:32:11,760
your screen like you can share one

867
00:32:17,110 --> 00:32:14,880
tab from g from from google drive with

868
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:17,120
the book on it or whatever

869
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:20,640
share screen i'm a terrible show host

870
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:22,320
i'm like you do it guest

871
00:32:26,710 --> 00:32:24,320
i'm i'm a loser i don't know what's

872
00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:26,720
going on i can't share from firefox it's

873
00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:28,480
not letting me

874
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:31,679
so if i pull up my book yeah and then

875
00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:33,120
you go down to that middle

876
00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:35,519
middle button in stream yard and it says

877
00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:36,399
share

878
00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:39,919
tab probably

879
00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:42,960
hmm okay yeah we'll see if you can't

880
00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:44,399
figure it out because i'm having a real

881
00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:46,240
hard time i apologize i don't know what

882
00:32:50,149 --> 00:32:47,279
happened but

883
00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:50,159
google was not working for uh mine and

884
00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:52,080
i'm getting the browser has blocked your

885
00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:57,669
okay so your entire screen just be sure

886
00:32:59,590 --> 00:32:58,320
that you're not

887
00:33:01,509 --> 00:32:59,600
you're not sharing anything you don't

888
00:33:03,269 --> 00:33:01,519
want to no that's okay

889
00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:03,279
that's okay yeah and i can see like a

890
00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:04,880
windows desktop right now

891
00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:06,799
here and here pop up what you want to

892
00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:08,240
share so

893
00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:10,240
you can see this right here there we go

894
00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:12,240
yeah there we go

895
00:33:15,990 --> 00:33:13,600
all right well why don't we oh by the

896
00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:16,000
way i let me just say there's a guy

897
00:33:20,389 --> 00:33:18,480
named jonasside who watches my show and

898
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:20,399
keeps asking me to make slides

899
00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:23,120
okay jonas we don't have slides tonight

900
00:33:26,789 --> 00:33:24,559
we have a book

901
00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:26,799
which is better than slides this is

902
00:33:30,149 --> 00:33:28,399
amazing stuff

903
00:33:31,750 --> 00:33:30,159
better than i could do genocide so i

904
00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:31,760
hope this satisfies your

905
00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:35,039
slides all right why don't we

906
00:33:38,710 --> 00:33:37,760
okay so can you see this stephen yes yes

907
00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:38,720
you can see it okay

908
00:33:42,149 --> 00:33:40,320
yes and that means the audience can as

909
00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:42,159
well why don't we i'm sorry for making

910
00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:43,279
you do this

911
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:45,519
oh no that's okay but we're working

912
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:46,799
we're gonna hit you with the 22 inch

913
00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:47,600
rims right here

914
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:51,440
okay so uh ufo magical mystery tour and

915
00:33:55,029 --> 00:33:52,000
and this

916
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:55,039
will incorporate the book as well so a

917
00:34:00,789 --> 00:33:56,880
pictorial history of lost forgotten

918
00:34:02,310 --> 00:34:00,799
obscure ufo encounters and uh

919
00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:02,320
quick announcement here's where you can

920
00:34:05,269 --> 00:34:03,679
get this information ladies and

921
00:34:06,070 --> 00:34:05,279
gentlemen i want you to be able to

922
00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:06,080
verify

923
00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:08,079
this on your own don't just trust me go

924
00:34:11,829 --> 00:34:10,240
out and do your own research

925
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:11,839
the visual aids used in this

926
00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:14,639
presentation are computer generated

927
00:34:17,909 --> 00:34:16,560
forensic composite illustrations which

928
00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:17,919
originate from actual

929
00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:21,200
ufo case files and eyewitness reports so

930
00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:23,200
here's where you can get the material

931
00:34:27,829 --> 00:34:25,760
kefos which is now under the

932
00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:27,839
jurisdiction of david marlar in

933
00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:29,280
albuquerque

934
00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:33,200
nycap apro mufan invisible residents

935
00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:36,240
um have you read this book stephen

936
00:34:39,829 --> 00:34:38,960
oh yeah yeah that that is one for

937
00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:39,839
everyone

938
00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:47,200
yeah that was good you cannot walk away

939
00:34:49,829 --> 00:34:48,159
from reading this book

940
00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:49,839
and think that there's nothing to this

941
00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:52,079
there's just no way i mean

942
00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:55,119
when they release the content report i'm

943
00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:56,159
sure you know this

944
00:35:03,030 --> 00:34:59,280
51 of all ufo cases are in point effect

945
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,040
uso cases and they didn't even include

946
00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:05,760
one uso report in their entire report

947
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:07,440
they missed 51 percent of the

948
00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:10,400
phenomenon which i can't believe uh

949
00:35:15,910 --> 00:35:12,960
uninvited guests by richard hall another

950
00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:15,920
monumental book you can't walk away from

951
00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:16,720
that book

952
00:35:19,990 --> 00:35:18,800
and think there's nothing to it david

953
00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:20,000
marlar collection

954
00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:23,200
uh ufo news clipping service we'll skip

955
00:35:27,030 --> 00:35:24,880
down to leonard springfield collection

956
00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:27,040
gray barker ufo collection so just to

957
00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:28,800
give you an idea where this information

958
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:30,160
came from

959
00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:31,920
now this is a little bit too involved

960
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:33,839
here i put together a timeline

961
00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:36,800
i broke this down really day by day hour

962
00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:38,079
by hour

963
00:35:41,109 --> 00:35:40,240
this has been authorized by uh don

964
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:41,119
schmidt so this

965
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:43,200
this checks out this tracks with the

966
00:35:46,710 --> 00:35:44,640
roswell event

967
00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:46,720
and uh we're hearing more and more about

968
00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:49,440
uap we're hearing about the june 25th

969
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:51,839
report in the pentagon we're all waiting

970
00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:52,560
for this

971
00:35:59,349 --> 00:35:55,760
my prediction it's going to be that's my

972
00:36:02,150 --> 00:35:59,359
number you know there's no droids here

973
00:36:04,870 --> 00:36:02,160
keep moving on basically so these are

974
00:36:07,510 --> 00:36:04,880
not the ufos you're looking for michael

975
00:36:08,390 --> 00:36:07,520
i think i think that a great deal of

976
00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:08,400
what we're seeing

977
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:11,440
in the media right now is uh

978
00:36:14,470 --> 00:36:14,160
is drones they may be advanced drones

979
00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:14,480
but

980
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:16,400
i think that it's a lot of drones that's

981
00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:17,760
what i think we're seeing

982
00:36:21,270 --> 00:36:19,920
not alien spacecraft and therefore i

983
00:36:22,710 --> 00:36:21,280
have very you know i'm

984
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:22,720
interested in drones a little bit

985
00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:24,400
especially super high tech drones with

986
00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:26,240
high capability but

987
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:27,920
not as much as i'm interested in seeing

988
00:36:33,430 --> 00:36:30,240
proof of alien spacecraft flying around

989
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:33,440
you know so

990
00:36:36,630 --> 00:36:34,880
this is a photograph what you're looking

991
00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:36,640
at here ladies and gentlemen this was

992
00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:37,680
taken by don

993
00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:41,440
schmidt at the actual impact site

994
00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:45,200
so this is july 2nd 1947

995
00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:47,520
and uh i'm going to go ahead and go to

996
00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:49,599
the next one now this is tom bogan

997
00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:52,480
you'll see we've got mac brazil on

998
00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:53,280
horseback

999
00:36:56,870 --> 00:36:55,680
and then we've got a seven-year-old boy

1000
00:36:59,349 --> 00:36:56,880
named timothy d

1001
00:37:01,109 --> 00:36:59,359
proctor now the way they rolled back at

1002
00:37:03,829 --> 00:37:01,119
this time everybody is that

1003
00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:03,839
if you were old enough to walk you were

1004
00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:05,920
old enough to ride horseback and that's

1005
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:06,880
what they did

1006
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:09,680
so here it is on the morning of july 3rd

1007
00:37:12,550 --> 00:37:10,240
where

1008
00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:12,560
his sheep would not cross this debris

1009
00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:13,760
field

1010
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:16,240
all this debris just spread over a large

1011
00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:18,160
area and then we do believe that there

1012
00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:20,640
was a 10 foot wide by about 200 foot

1013
00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:21,440
long

1014
00:37:26,950 --> 00:37:24,880
trench or you know gouge in the

1015
00:37:28,390 --> 00:37:26,960
planes at this at this time and so

1016
00:37:30,310 --> 00:37:28,400
that's what we've illustrated here so

1017
00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:30,320
this is the morning of july 3rd

1018
00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:32,640
1947 and i want to take you through the

1019
00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:34,160
entire case

1020
00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:36,560
bring you to the site bring you into the

1021
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:38,000
hangar as well

1022
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:39,359
all right so here's we got the crash

1023
00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:42,800
retrieval operation july 8th 1947 and

1024
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:44,400
all the components

1025
00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:46,880
in this story are represented here so if

1026
00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:48,560
you look at the back

1027
00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:51,359
we've got multiple eyewitnesses on

1028
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:53,200
downtown main street and roswell that

1029
00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:53,920
did see an

1030
00:37:59,109 --> 00:37:56,400
18-wheeler lowboy tractor-trailer go

1031
00:38:02,390 --> 00:37:59,119
right to paint hangar p3 building 84.

1032
00:38:04,870 --> 00:38:02,400
there was also a ambulance truck now

1033
00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:04,880
according to don schmidt there were five

1034
00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:07,599
bodies recovered one was still alive

1035
00:38:12,550 --> 00:38:10,240
uh over here we've got a jeep section

1036
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:12,560
here we've got a six by troop transport

1037
00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:13,280
now the

1038
00:38:19,670 --> 00:38:16,640
the impact site happened very close to

1039
00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:19,680
a water retention facility or a water

1040
00:38:23,030 --> 00:38:20,320
tank

1041
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:23,040
and also a windmill as well so we've got

1042
00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:23,520
there

1043
00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:26,800
now also according to don schmidt

1044
00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:29,760
the roswell craft was not a saucer

1045
00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:32,000
repeat the roswell craft was not

1046
00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:35,280
a saucer what it was was

1047
00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:38,640
a basically an egg shaped craft

1048
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:41,040
the size of a volkswagen with a dome on

1049
00:38:43,950 --> 00:38:42,720
top and that's what you see right here

1050
00:38:46,310 --> 00:38:43,960
now they were

1051
00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:46,320
approximately four feet tall they had

1052
00:38:50,230 --> 00:38:47,200
spindly

1053
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:50,240
arms and legs pathy henderson

1054
00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:52,480
said they were squiggly they look like

1055
00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:53,920
casper the ghost

1056
00:38:58,870 --> 00:38:56,560
they were wearing a light colored silver

1057
00:39:00,870 --> 00:38:58,880
one-piece tight-fitting flight suit

1058
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:00,880
that they didn't know how they got in so

1059
00:39:03,829 --> 00:39:02,240
that's what we're looking at here with

1060
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:03,839
the crash scene operation

1061
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:07,440
this is july 8th 1947. now

1062
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:10,400
roswell main street convoy we've got the

1063
00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:11,440
paperboy here

1064
00:39:15,190 --> 00:39:13,280
and according to don schmidt you can

1065
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:15,200
read this in witness to roswell

1066
00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:18,240
there are at least two paper boys and

1067
00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:21,440
at least 20 separate eyewitnesses

1068
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:24,880
that saw this military convoy that had

1069
00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:26,400
two jeeps up front

1070
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:29,599
18 wheeler trucker uh trailer lowboy

1071
00:39:35,270 --> 00:39:32,160
truck and then two jeeps behind that

1072
00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:35,280
on its way down main street uh roswell

1073
00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:35,760
to

1074
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:38,720
roswell army airfield home of the 519th

1075
00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:39,520
bomb group

1076
00:39:44,069 --> 00:39:41,599
but they said that there was a tarp

1077
00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:44,079
covering an egg-shaped craft that looked

1078
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:46,240
just like what they retrieved

1079
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:49,200
prior to with ropes covering the tarp

1080
00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:50,640
and the whole thing was covered you

1081
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:52,320
could not see anything

1082
00:39:56,069 --> 00:39:54,960
below this tarp that was going right to

1083
00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:56,079
the uh

1084
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:57,680
five or ninth bomb group now and

1085
00:40:00,150 --> 00:39:59,359
apparently this was not a common

1086
00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:00,160
occurrence

1087
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:03,280
in no this was not the street of roswell

1088
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:06,400
yeah right after all you know because by

1089
00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:08,640
the time it got july 7th

1090
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:10,720
it was like electricity throughout all

1091
00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:12,480
of roswell this story was

1092
00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:15,200
burning up the whole town everyone heard

1093
00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:16,640
about this now

1094
00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:19,520
there was a b-29 called straight flush

1095
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:22,240
that taxied over atomic bomb pick number

1096
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:23,440
one

1097
00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:26,560
and what they ended up doing is is they

1098
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:28,640
were loading a crate

1099
00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:30,400
into the bomb bay so they had this

1100
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:32,720
hydraulic cylinder that would lift up

1101
00:40:36,069 --> 00:40:34,079
the atomic bombs

1102
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:36,079
put them into the b-29 well they did the

1103
00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:37,200
same thing here

1104
00:40:41,829 --> 00:40:40,160
but instead of a bomb it was a crate so

1105
00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:41,839
what were they actually

1106
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:44,720
loading in the crate and this is the uh

1107
00:40:48,550 --> 00:40:46,400
illustration of what we believe

1108
00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:48,560
could have been the autopsy as well so

1109
00:40:53,270 --> 00:40:49,599
this would have been

1110
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:53,280
after july 9 1947 at right field dayton

1111
00:40:58,069 --> 00:40:54,640
ohio

1112
00:41:00,630 --> 00:40:58,079
all within a matter of days and

1113
00:41:01,589 --> 00:41:00,640
my question is if it was just a weather

1114
00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:01,599
balloon

1115
00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:03,920
why do you need an 18-wheeler tractor

1116
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:05,119
low boy trailer

1117
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:06,560
going down main street if it's just a

1118
00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:07,920
weather balloon that doesn't make any

1119
00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:08,480
sense

1120
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:12,079
we also have reports of

1121
00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:14,560
police operations you know military

1122
00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:16,240
police operations that were cleaning up

1123
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:17,680
the debris field

1124
00:41:24,550 --> 00:41:21,440
for three days

1125
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:24,560
two teams of 50 men and then when they

1126
00:41:28,309 --> 00:41:26,720
got home

1127
00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:28,319
some of the people that were near the

1128
00:41:33,750 --> 00:41:29,760
bodies

1129
00:41:36,470 --> 00:41:33,760
their their clothes

1130
00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:36,480
and reeked of the odor so bad that they

1131
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:38,400
had to burn their clothes

1132
00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:40,000
now that doesn't sound like a weather

1133
00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:41,839
balloon to me so

1134
00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:43,760
we should keep that in mind as well okay

1135
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:46,079
now moving on

1136
00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:49,200
we always talk about june 24th 1947

1137
00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:52,160
being the kenneth arnold originating

1138
00:41:55,109 --> 00:41:54,400
point of ufology well if you go back in

1139
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:55,119
time

1140
00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:57,599
it's actually the 1897 mystery airship

1141
00:42:01,589 --> 00:41:58,400
wave

1142
00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:01,599
that took place in sacramento also

1143
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:04,319
in downtown san francisco and what their

1144
00:42:09,270 --> 00:42:06,720
people were reporting

1145
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:09,280
is this gondola ship craft with what

1146
00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:11,359
looked like an airbag on top

1147
00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:13,760
and then a wing on either side something

1148
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:15,280
that looked like a rudder

1149
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:18,640
and then these powerful steven powerful

1150
00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:20,640
beaming spotlights that came down that

1151
00:42:24,309 --> 00:42:21,599
caused

1152
00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:24,319
absolute chaos in these and i really i

1153
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:25,280
really love this

1154
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:27,440
uh this mystery airship i've seen other

1155
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:29,280
depictions of but i think you nailed it

1156
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:32,400
better than anybody and it looks so

1157
00:42:35,109 --> 00:42:33,680
steampunk to me

1158
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:35,119
you know yes this is true and it

1159
00:42:39,510 --> 00:42:37,680
happened in 1897 so for people that

1160
00:42:41,430 --> 00:42:39,520
think that ufos

1161
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:41,440
yeah for people that think ufos are a

1162
00:42:45,349 --> 00:42:42,880
new or you know

1163
00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:45,359
a new thing or just started in the 50s

1164
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:46,720
or 40s

1165
00:42:50,069 --> 00:42:48,000
it's been around longer than that we

1166
00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:50,079
have the aurora case as well

1167
00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:53,760
that's one of my favorites so

1168
00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:55,680
there were people screaming through the

1169
00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:57,599
streets there were horses bolting

1170
00:43:00,870 --> 00:42:59,119
there were covered wagons that were

1171
00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:00,880
flipped over people

1172
00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:03,040
didn't know what this thing was i mean

1173
00:43:07,190 --> 00:43:04,720
it parked itself over

1174
00:43:08,550 --> 00:43:07,200
uh sacramento san francisco it made it

1175
00:43:10,710 --> 00:43:08,560
to the east coast

1176
00:43:12,150 --> 00:43:10,720
there were thousands of eyewitnesses

1177
00:43:14,309 --> 00:43:12,160
there were hundreds of newspaper

1178
00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:14,319
clippings and if we go ahead and move

1179
00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:15,599
forward here's here's some of the

1180
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:16,480
original

1181
00:43:21,670 --> 00:43:18,880
drawings that had gone some of these

1182
00:43:24,550 --> 00:43:21,680
craft had these

1183
00:43:26,309 --> 00:43:24,560
anchors coming down there were

1184
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:26,319
eyewitness reports of

1185
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:29,520
laughter coming from these craft that's

1186
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:29,920
funny

1187
00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:32,160
big black dogs on the deck of these

1188
00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:33,040
craft

1189
00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:35,599
big black dogs this is getting crazier

1190
00:43:38,710 --> 00:43:37,440
and crazier

1191
00:43:41,589 --> 00:43:38,720
you can't make it up there were big

1192
00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:41,599
black dogs reported on the deck of these

1193
00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:42,640
craft

1194
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:44,720
and then right next to the dogs were

1195
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:45,760
these very

1196
00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:48,160
eccentric well-dressed inventor types

1197
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:54,150
too there's like the monopoly guy on

1198
00:43:56,870 --> 00:43:54,880
this thing

1199
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:56,880
that's right that's right that's right

1200
00:43:59,829 --> 00:43:58,880
so you just look at some of the bullet

1201
00:44:01,829 --> 00:43:59,839
items here

1202
00:44:02,990 --> 00:44:01,839
number one the wave actually began

1203
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:03,000
november 18

1204
00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:06,079
1897 in sacramento number two

1205
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:08,240
the object cast down brilliant beams of

1206
00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:10,079
light on the city before it moved toward

1207
00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:12,000
san francisco number three

1208
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:14,400
eyewitnesses described uh described the

1209
00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:16,880
craft as being 150 feet in length

1210
00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:20,720
with four rotor-like arms in some cases

1211
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:23,280
anchors attached to ropes were dropped

1212
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:24,880
from the mysterious craft

1213
00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:27,119
and laughter could be heard originating

1214
00:44:30,870 --> 00:44:28,400
from the interior

1215
00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:30,880
by may of 1897 virtually all the

1216
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:31,440
sightings

1217
00:44:34,870 --> 00:44:33,680
ended and so here we've got an

1218
00:44:36,309 --> 00:44:34,880
enlargement here

1219
00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:36,319
and you can see the well-dressed

1220
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:38,160
inventor type uh

1221
00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:41,359
just before the description of the craft

1222
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:43,359
itself but that's what they're reporting

1223
00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:46,480
a mechanical looking machine with

1224
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:49,440
with these wings on either side

1225
00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:51,760
suspending this gondola i mean this is

1226
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:53,200
this is what they're reporting

1227
00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:55,440
do you get any sense from from aviation

1228
00:44:58,710 --> 00:44:56,960
history i mean could this have been

1229
00:45:01,750 --> 00:44:58,720
early zeppelin's or early

1230
00:45:04,309 --> 00:45:01,760
uh well i have to give credit to walter

1231
00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:04,319
bosley i think he has nailed it

1232
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:06,960
if anyone's written uh read his books on

1233
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:09,520
the 1897 mystery airship wave

1234
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:12,720
he makes a very good case for

1235
00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:15,280
a man-made technology and if you think

1236
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:16,240
about it

1237
00:45:22,470 --> 00:45:19,280
what were they doing on the west coast

1238
00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:22,480
right because if you look at

1239
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:24,079
stephen do you know how many people live

1240
00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:27,440
in the state of california in 1849

1241
00:45:31,349 --> 00:45:29,119
well i could imagine because of the gold

1242
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:31,359
rush it was a pretty populated place

1243
00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:32,000
right

1244
00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:34,319
well there were only 12 000 people in

1245
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:36,480
the entire world

1246
00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:40,079
back in 1849 during the gold rush so

1247
00:45:43,829 --> 00:45:41,520
what it looks like if you put it all

1248
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:43,839
together if there really was

1249
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:47,760
this nims you know the sonora arrow club

1250
00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:50,480
and they were a bunch of rich executive

1251
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:51,920
inventor types that were

1252
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:55,119
financed by groups from new york

1253
00:45:58,870 --> 00:45:58,079
it sounds perhaps like they were trying

1254
00:46:02,710 --> 00:45:58,880
to figure out

1255
00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:02,720
an efficient and covert way to transport

1256
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:04,880
gold from the gold fields of the west

1257
00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:06,800
coast northern california region

1258
00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:09,920
to new york but do it secretly that's

1259
00:46:12,790 --> 00:46:11,200
what it looks like

1260
00:46:14,230 --> 00:46:12,800
at this point that's interesting so they

1261
00:46:15,190 --> 00:46:14,240
could just yeah because i mean it

1262
00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:15,200
wouldn't be taking

1263
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:17,280
like thousands of pounds of it so maybe

1264
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:18,720
a zeppelin or a blimp

1265
00:46:23,349 --> 00:46:21,520
would be or balloon kind of plant would

1266
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:23,359
be a good way to do that right

1267
00:46:27,190 --> 00:46:25,680
if well if charles del shaw is correct

1268
00:46:30,150 --> 00:46:27,200
because he was the

1269
00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:30,160
artwork person within this nimze group

1270
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:31,599
the senora arrow club

1271
00:46:34,630 --> 00:46:34,000
he said that they figured out a way to

1272
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:34,640
negate

1273
00:46:37,829 --> 00:46:37,440
gravity and it was something called nb

1274
00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:37,839
gas

1275
00:46:41,589 --> 00:46:39,520
that to this day we don't know what it

1276
00:46:42,150 --> 00:46:41,599
is that's what these things were filled

1277
00:46:43,910 --> 00:46:42,160
with

1278
00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:43,920
and they could go 100 miles an hour

1279
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:46,960
against the wind back in 1897.

1280
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:48,480
that's what the reports are talking

1281
00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:50,000
about this is belo

1282
00:46:55,589 --> 00:46:53,359
long before uh december 17th 1903 yet

1283
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:55,599
kill kill devil hills in north carolina

1284
00:47:00,150 --> 00:46:56,720
before the wright brothers

1285
00:47:03,109 --> 00:47:00,160
they were doing these things all right

1286
00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:03,119
april 24th 1964 socorro new mexico

1287
00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:04,560
everybody knows about the lonnies and

1288
00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:05,839
morrow case

1289
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:09,200
but i want to point out that before this

1290
00:47:12,790 --> 00:47:10,720
thing even landed

1291
00:47:15,589 --> 00:47:12,800
because lonnie was chasing after a

1292
00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:15,599
speeder when this all took place

1293
00:47:20,069 --> 00:47:18,000
before that happened there was a group

1294
00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:20,079
that was on a family vacation they were

1295
00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:21,920
in socalgo new mexico and

1296
00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:24,480
either this craft or a craft just like

1297
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:27,040
it probably this one right here

1298
00:47:31,750 --> 00:47:29,440
steven this thing flew right over their

1299
00:47:33,190 --> 00:47:31,760
car at about one foot altitude at high

1300
00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:33,200
rate of speed

1301
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:36,079
and this family they stopped by the

1302
00:47:40,950 --> 00:47:38,400
police department they filed a report

1303
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:40,960
and the report if you read it it says

1304
00:47:44,230 --> 00:47:42,960
you people really fly your planes low

1305
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:44,240
around here it's actually

1306
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:47,359
in the report yeah it's

1307
00:47:51,589 --> 00:47:50,000
i'm not making this up so lonnie is amor

1308
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:51,599
he's chasing the speeder

1309
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:53,520
on a quarter of his eye he sees this

1310
00:47:56,470 --> 00:47:54,720
egg-shaped craft

1311
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:56,480
he says you know what i'm out of here so

1312
00:48:00,870 --> 00:47:58,800
he gives up the chase of the speeder

1313
00:48:02,230 --> 00:48:00,880
he goes after this craft he goes over

1314
00:48:05,270 --> 00:48:02,240
this kind of

1315
00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:05,280
mountainous rocky hill and then parks

1316
00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:06,240
his squad car

1317
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:08,079
gets out and what he sees off into the

1318
00:48:11,829 --> 00:48:09,839
distance

1319
00:48:13,829 --> 00:48:11,839
is about a 20-foot long elliptical

1320
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:13,839
egg-shaped craft

1321
00:48:19,829 --> 00:48:17,040
it was kind of an off-whitish color

1322
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:19,839
it had four pogo landing gear sticking

1323
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:20,240
out

1324
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:21,839
resting on landing gear it had an

1325
00:48:24,549 --> 00:48:23,760
exhaust nozzle at the back on the bottom

1326
00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:24,559
of it

1327
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:26,800
and then he said that not only did it

1328
00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:28,160
have an inscription

1329
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:29,680
on the side of it which you can see

1330
00:48:34,470 --> 00:48:30,960
right here but then he said that there

1331
00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:34,480
were small statured

1332
00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:36,319
you could say humanoid looking beings

1333
00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:37,680
that were wearing a one-piece

1334
00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:39,280
tight-fitting flight suit that were

1335
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:40,800
white in color now

1336
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:43,680
if you read the report it says that he

1337
00:48:48,309 --> 00:48:45,440
got within 300 feet

1338
00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:48,319
of the craft that apparently is not

1339
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:49,200
correct

1340
00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:52,079
the actual distance with 24 feet he got

1341
00:48:56,150 --> 00:48:53,520
within 24

1342
00:48:57,349 --> 00:48:56,160
feet of this craft now when these two

1343
00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:57,359
beings

1344
00:49:02,150 --> 00:48:59,280
saw that they were being observed by

1345
00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:02,160
lion zamora they climbed into this craft

1346
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:04,079
and this is where it gets interesting

1347
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:06,079
there was a banging noise

1348
00:49:09,430 --> 00:49:08,640
stephen and then two seconds later there

1349
00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:09,440
was another

1350
00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:11,839
banging noise and then out from the

1351
00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:14,079
bottom of this rocket nozzle was a blue

1352
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:16,160
colored flame not a campfire orange

1353
00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:18,480
flame but a blue colored flame

1354
00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:20,480
this thing took off hovered there and

1355
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:22,240
then slowly disappeared but

1356
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:24,160
i want to drill down further and just so

1357
00:49:29,990 --> 00:49:29,270
here's the newspaper new mexican april

1358
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:30,000
27

1359
00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:33,119
1964 flying object

1360
00:49:37,270 --> 00:49:36,480
visits region uh and then here is the

1361
00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:37,280
socorro

1362
00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:40,640
symbol now for 55-60 years

1363
00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:43,760
we've all heard about what this symbol

1364
00:49:46,470 --> 00:49:44,559
talks about

1365
00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:46,480
what it looks like so here's a

1366
00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:47,680
representation

1367
00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:50,880
yeah actual sketch right so if you

1368
00:49:54,710 --> 00:49:52,480
if you take the one that we've known

1369
00:49:57,589 --> 00:49:54,720
about for 50 years and you revolve it

1370
00:49:57,990 --> 00:49:57,599
90 degrees left hand right then you take

1371
00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:58,000
this

1372
00:50:01,750 --> 00:50:00,720
tp thing you revolve that 90 degree

1373
00:50:03,589 --> 00:50:01,760
right hand

1374
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:03,599
and then you take that small little dash

1375
00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:05,200
line you connect that you get

1376
00:50:11,349 --> 00:50:10,079
c a i you invert this you get cia

1377
00:50:14,549 --> 00:50:11,359
that's what we're looking at here

1378
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:14,559
however there's a new book

1379
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:17,599
written by ben moss where he drills down

1380
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:20,319
really deep and he shows you what the

1381
00:50:22,870 --> 00:50:21,040
actual

1382
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:22,880
insignia looks like and that's what i

1383
00:50:27,270 --> 00:50:24,880
want to show you right now

1384
00:50:29,349 --> 00:50:27,280
this is ladies and gentlemen the actual

1385
00:50:31,829 --> 00:50:29,359
insignia it was an inverted v

1386
00:50:32,790 --> 00:50:31,839
with three hash marks that is what

1387
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:32,800
lonnie zamora

1388
00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:35,280
actually saw so we've been kind of led

1389
00:50:39,589 --> 00:50:36,800
down this road

1390
00:50:42,069 --> 00:50:39,599
all these years this is what it actually

1391
00:50:45,510 --> 00:50:42,079
looks like

1392
00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:45,520
now i asked the question why

1393
00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:47,440
where we sold this bill of goods so

1394
00:50:50,950 --> 00:50:49,040
here's the question why did lonnie

1395
00:50:54,150 --> 00:50:50,960
zamora sign off

1396
00:50:55,510 --> 00:50:54,160
on a fake symbol the symbol was changed

1397
00:50:58,150 --> 00:50:55,520
by us air force

1398
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:58,160
major holder for the simple reason that

1399
00:51:02,150 --> 00:50:59,040
providing a

1400
00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:02,160
fake symbol if any other cases came up

1401
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:04,400
and a witness reported the fake umbrella

1402
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:06,400
symbol then they would know that the

1403
00:51:11,030 --> 00:51:08,000
witness was lying

1404
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:11,040
bailani signing the fake symbol may be

1405
00:51:14,710 --> 00:51:12,079
drawn by holder

1406
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:14,720
lonnie was signing a contract with the

1407
00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:16,720
government to keep his mouth shut on the

1408
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:17,440
symbol

1409
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:19,760
it was country god then family in those

1410
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:20,640
days so

1411
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:22,720
this is what i was told by ben moss and

1412
00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:25,440
i wanted to reproduce it word for word

1413
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:28,640
so what we've been led to believe

1414
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:31,040
is the actual symbol has not been all

1415
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:32,400
this time

1416
00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:34,640
it's just the inverted v with the hash

1417
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:35,520
marks

1418
00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:38,079
okay now i want to hit you with this

1419
00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:38,640
right here

1420
00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:41,680
can you see on the upper part of this

1421
00:51:45,430 --> 00:51:43,040
thing

1422
00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:45,440
the upper left is socorro i hope

1423
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:47,280
everyone can see this

1424
00:51:51,109 --> 00:51:49,040
that's where this actually took place so

1425
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:51,119
it's on the upper map of this

1426
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:53,680
section here now just to the right

1427
00:51:58,069 --> 00:51:54,880
you'll see this dash

1428
00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:58,079
boundary line that is boundary line for

1429
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:00,240
white sands missile range now if you go

1430
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:02,640
down to the bottom right hand side

1431
00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:03,440
section

1432
00:52:07,349 --> 00:52:06,400
you see scale in miles so if you go from

1433
00:52:09,990 --> 00:52:07,359
zero to five

1434
00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:10,000
and then you transpose that back up and

1435
00:52:13,829 --> 00:52:11,440
you plug that in between

1436
00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:13,839
socorro new mexico and the boundary line

1437
00:52:19,190 --> 00:52:15,920
of white cells missile range

1438
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:19,200
ladies and gentlemen the socorro

1439
00:52:27,430 --> 00:52:23,520
new mexico 1964 lonnie zamora case

1440
00:52:29,990 --> 00:52:27,440
took place no more than five miles

1441
00:52:31,030 --> 00:52:30,000
from the northwest boundary of white

1442
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:31,040
sands missile range

1443
00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:33,359
that cannot be a coincidence oh that's

1444
00:52:37,750 --> 00:52:35,520
interesting coincidence

1445
00:52:39,109 --> 00:52:37,760
it's within a stone's throw of a

1446
00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:39,119
military installation

1447
00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:41,280
testing interview so do you think that

1448
00:52:43,990 --> 00:52:42,240
it was some sort of

1449
00:52:46,470 --> 00:52:44,000
us government craft and not actually

1450
00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:46,480
aliens but how do you explain the little

1451
00:52:50,309 --> 00:52:49,520
humanoids then well [\h__\h] violets i

1452
00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:50,319
don't know

1453
00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:53,200
they did use small stature test pilots

1454
00:52:56,950 --> 00:52:54,640
prior to that

1455
00:52:57,829 --> 00:52:56,960
and we got that first hand from jack

1456
00:53:00,710 --> 00:52:57,839
pickett

1457
00:53:02,549 --> 00:53:00,720
who saw uh three flying saucers at

1458
00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:02,559
mcdill air force base back in september

1459
00:53:07,349 --> 00:53:04,160
1967

1460
00:53:09,589 --> 00:53:07,359
so it's not uncommon for them to use uh

1461
00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:09,599
small stature test piles this checks out

1462
00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:10,559
exactly

1463
00:53:14,710 --> 00:53:12,800
what jack pickett would say so i'm just

1464
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:14,720
very interesting and it's interesting to

1465
00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:15,680
me that this

1466
00:53:21,910 --> 00:53:18,960
this sort of mistaken mistaking

1467
00:53:23,430 --> 00:53:21,920
uh you know top secret aircraft that may

1468
00:53:25,829 --> 00:53:23,440
be being tested for

1469
00:53:27,910 --> 00:53:25,839
alien spacecraft seems to happen a lot

1470
00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:27,920
like these recent drone footages with

1471
00:53:32,230 --> 00:53:29,200
the navy

1472
00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:32,240
all that took place like within miles

1473
00:53:37,670 --> 00:53:35,280
from a drone testing facility yeah

1474
00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:37,680
it goes to california doesn't it make

1475
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:39,760
sense that we exhaust

1476
00:53:45,910 --> 00:53:42,960
a possible man-made origin first and

1477
00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:45,920
then look at other options well i think

1478
00:53:50,549 --> 00:53:48,240
we should but we have a lot of people

1479
00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:50,559
it seems like there's these you know uh

1480
00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:52,880
grant cameron called them ufo messiahs

1481
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:54,480
that are out there you know they think

1482
00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:56,160
they're they're they're there to bring

1483
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:57,040
us the truth about

1484
00:54:01,109 --> 00:53:59,119
aliens but they make these irresponsible

1485
00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:01,119
statements like no one on earth has this

1486
00:54:05,829 --> 00:54:02,640
technology

1487
00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:05,839
or uh you know this these these

1488
00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:08,319
were exhibiting flight characteristics

1489
00:54:13,270 --> 00:54:10,720
thousands of years beyond our technology

1490
00:54:15,270 --> 00:54:13,280
and why is that oh they made 90 degree

1491
00:54:17,430 --> 00:54:15,280
turns but then we find examples

1492
00:54:18,790 --> 00:54:17,440
of experimental aircraft that can do

1493
00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:18,800
exactly that

1494
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:21,200
unmanned but still we have aircraft that

1495
00:54:25,430 --> 00:54:23,200
can make 90 degree turns

1496
00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:25,440
you know i think you hit it right on the

1497
00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:27,280
nail exactly

1498
00:54:31,510 --> 00:54:29,680
uh here's some of the bullet items here

1499
00:54:33,510 --> 00:54:31,520
object was seen within very close

1500
00:54:34,069 --> 00:54:33,520
proximity to white sands missile range

1501
00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:34,079
number two

1502
00:54:40,870 --> 00:54:37,440
object featured retractable landing gear

1503
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:40,880
ufo featured inverted barn landing gear

1504
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:42,880
pads with sharp 90-degree straight

1505
00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:44,240
corners i'm going to talk about that a

1506
00:54:48,309 --> 00:54:45,520
little bit later

1507
00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:48,319
a mysterious metallic slam this is right

1508
00:54:50,870 --> 00:54:49,200
in the book

1509
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:50,880
everyone can read this a mysterious

1510
00:54:55,109 --> 00:54:53,040
metallic slam noise

1511
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:55,119
was heard just prior to liftoff and

1512
00:54:59,270 --> 00:54:56,160
departure

1513
00:55:00,390 --> 00:54:59,280
is that a door hatch closing that's my

1514
00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:00,400
question

1515
00:55:03,589 --> 00:55:03,040
number five a second mysterious metallic

1516
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:03,599
slam

1517
00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:06,000
was also heard prior to departure is

1518
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:06,960
that a latching

1519
00:55:13,430 --> 00:55:11,040
locking mechanism engaged a very loud

1520
00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:13,440
roar was heard hard to lift off

1521
00:55:17,670 --> 00:55:15,520
change in frequency from low to high

1522
00:55:20,069 --> 00:55:17,680
number seven a blue flame was seen

1523
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:20,079
coming from the bottom of the crap as it

1524
00:55:24,870 --> 00:55:21,839
lifted off the ground now

1525
00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:24,880
stephen if you know your ufo history

1526
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:27,200
what other case do we know of where

1527
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:28,160
there was a blue

1528
00:55:31,510 --> 00:55:30,720
flame coming out of a ufo from the

1529
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:31,520
bottom of it

1530
00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:35,359
it's very famous so the kecksberg

1531
00:55:43,349 --> 00:55:39,119
not quite try one more one more uh

1532
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:43,359
cash landrum cash landrum that's right

1533
00:55:46,549 --> 00:55:45,520
it also had a blue colored flame that

1534
00:55:48,069 --> 00:55:46,559
was very stressful

1535
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:48,079
i didn't want michael strat to think i

1536
00:55:52,549 --> 00:55:49,920
was a dummy you know i'm like

1537
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:52,559
think here like okay i thought it too i

1538
00:55:56,230 --> 00:55:53,440
actually

1539
00:55:56,950 --> 00:55:56,240
but uh that one was my second choice but

1540
00:55:59,109 --> 00:55:56,960
yeah yeah

1541
00:56:00,950 --> 00:55:59,119
you got it do you know that richard doty

1542
00:56:02,150 --> 00:56:00,960
i interviewed him and richard dodie

1543
00:56:05,670 --> 00:56:02,160
claimed that that case

1544
00:56:08,230 --> 00:56:05,680
was recovered flying saucers

1545
00:56:09,829 --> 00:56:08,240
recovered alien spacecraft but they

1546
00:56:11,670 --> 00:56:09,839
ripped out the power system

1547
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:11,680
the alien power system that didn't work

1548
00:56:14,470 --> 00:56:13,440
and replaced it with a nuclear power

1549
00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:14,480
source

1550
00:56:17,990 --> 00:56:17,680
that's what he claimed i know i've heard

1551
00:56:20,309 --> 00:56:18,000
that

1552
00:56:21,589 --> 00:56:20,319
too but i just think it's very

1553
00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:21,599
interesting that

1554
00:56:25,349 --> 00:56:23,760
we've got this blue colored flame coming

1555
00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:25,359
out of two different craft two different

1556
00:56:30,069 --> 00:56:27,520
locations two different timelines but

1557
00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:30,079
they check out oh now let's get to the

1558
00:56:33,109 --> 00:56:30,720
landing gear

1559
00:56:34,950 --> 00:56:33,119
this thing now take a look at this blown

1560
00:56:38,789 --> 00:56:34,960
up illustration here

1561
00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:38,799
you can see it has this inverted barn

1562
00:56:42,829 --> 00:56:41,440
roof configuration with 90 degree

1563
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:42,839
corners straight

1564
00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:46,559
angles sharp faces flat faces

1565
00:56:50,950 --> 00:56:49,119
does this look like the landing pad of

1566
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:50,960
an alien spacecraft

1567
00:56:56,230 --> 00:56:54,240
um here's the actual indentation it made

1568
00:56:57,990 --> 00:56:56,240
now this is the female

1569
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:58,000
impression that it made into the ground

1570
00:57:00,309 --> 00:56:59,680
you can see the dotted line so what i

1571
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:00,319
did

1572
00:57:05,349 --> 00:57:03,440
version

1573
00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:05,359
that gets you to here this is the

1574
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:06,480
enlargement

1575
00:57:10,630 --> 00:57:08,640
of the female impression here now if we

1576
00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:10,640
go one more further here

1577
00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:13,359
here is the socorro new mexico landing

1578
00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:14,240
pad

1579
00:57:18,710 --> 00:57:16,079
stephen does this look like a landing

1580
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:18,720
pad from an alien spacecraft to you

1581
00:57:22,309 --> 00:57:20,240
well you know that would be hard to tell

1582
00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:22,319
because who knows the way aliens think

1583
00:57:24,789 --> 00:57:23,599
in engineering

1584
00:57:26,870 --> 00:57:24,799
i would think they'd have something a

1585
00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:26,880
little more advanced than that yeah you

1586
00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:28,319
would think so right so

1587
00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:29,760
i went ahead and did a three view

1588
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:31,359
drawing and you know

1589
00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:33,359
look at that this is the left no offense

1590
00:57:35,910 --> 00:57:34,480
michael

1591
00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:35,920
don't think this is an offense because i

1592
00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:37,520
mean it is a compliment but i just want

1593
00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:38,960
my audience to see like

1594
00:57:41,990 --> 00:57:41,280
this is the level of obsession that

1595
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:42,000
michael scott

1596
00:57:45,589 --> 00:57:45,119
has he went you know what this couldn't

1597
00:57:48,230 --> 00:57:45,599
be an

1598
00:57:49,510 --> 00:57:48,240
alien landing pad i'm gonna draw it and

1599
00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:49,520
make models of it

1600
00:57:52,870 --> 00:57:52,160
and try to get more information you're

1601
00:57:58,309 --> 00:57:52,880
not gonna get

1602
00:58:01,510 --> 00:58:00,309
but i love you brother i love you i'm

1603
00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:01,520
doing it

1604
00:58:04,789 --> 00:58:03,280
ain't nobody else gonna do this no one's

1605
00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:04,799
gonna kill that

1606
00:58:07,990 --> 00:58:06,960
tough job somebody's gotta do it better

1607
00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:08,000
you than me dude

1608
00:58:11,990 --> 00:58:10,720
i can't draw so you gotta do it for us i

1609
00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:12,000
could teach you to do this in five

1610
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:12,880
minutes but

1611
00:58:16,549 --> 00:58:15,119
i i haven't seen anyone do this before

1612
00:58:17,109 --> 00:58:16,559
so i thought well we gotta do it right

1613
00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:17,119
so

1614
00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:19,200
just look at the sharp corners look at

1615
00:58:24,069 --> 00:58:21,520
the 90 degree angles look at the

1616
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:24,079
flat faces like someone put this on a

1617
00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:24,960
milling machine

1618
00:58:29,349 --> 00:58:26,880
and and milled it out of solid aluminum

1619
00:58:31,910 --> 00:58:29,359
billet that's what it looks like to me

1620
00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:31,920
this does not look like an alien landing

1621
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:32,640
pad leg

1622
00:58:35,750 --> 00:58:34,720
at all you you would think it would be

1623
00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:35,760
like fully

1624
00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:38,960
integrated seamless and round and

1625
00:58:43,510 --> 00:58:42,160
swept into the landing gear uh stands

1626
00:58:44,150 --> 00:58:43,520
itself but that's not what we're seeing

1627
00:58:46,950 --> 00:58:44,160
here

1628
00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:46,960
we're seeing 90 degree corners and

1629
00:58:52,230 --> 00:58:49,200
anyone who knows anything about nature

1630
00:58:53,349 --> 00:58:52,240
is nature almost never has 90 degree

1631
00:58:56,470 --> 00:58:53,359
corners almost

1632
00:58:57,030 --> 00:58:56,480
never will you see this very rarely will

1633
00:58:59,670 --> 00:58:57,040
you see

1634
00:59:00,549 --> 00:58:59,680
any kind of configuration in nature like

1635
00:59:02,390 --> 00:59:00,559
this so

1636
00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:02,400
it's just another little piece of the

1637
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:04,000
puzzle that we're just putting it out

1638
00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:04,720
there now

1639
00:59:08,390 --> 00:59:06,480
so so what what do you think do you

1640
00:59:11,510 --> 00:59:08,400
think this was like top secret

1641
00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:11,520
uh some kind of top secret experimental

1642
00:59:18,069 --> 00:59:13,520
craft that they were flying around and

1643
00:59:19,670 --> 00:59:18,079
absolutely absolutely yes i do yes i do

1644
00:59:21,910 --> 00:59:19,680
they had plenty of time because if you

1645
00:59:24,470 --> 00:59:21,920
look at the reference works

1646
00:59:25,990 --> 00:59:24,480
the reference paperwork from 1954 to

1647
00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:26,000
1955

1648
00:59:29,430 --> 00:59:28,160
they were trying to crack the gravity

1649
00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:29,440
barrier

1650
00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:32,160
and they had about 10 years to look at

1651
00:59:35,349 --> 00:59:32,640
it

1652
00:59:35,829 --> 00:59:35,359
and then here we have 64. boom we have

1653
00:59:42,069 --> 00:59:35,839
it

1654
00:59:44,069 --> 00:59:42,079
yeah you know what i always i always

1655
00:59:45,030 --> 00:59:44,079
found interesting is that you can find

1656
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:45,040
references

1657
00:59:51,270 --> 00:59:48,720
different major

1658
00:59:53,270 --> 00:59:51,280
uh aviation companies that were looking

1659
00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:53,280
into electrogravitics

1660
00:59:56,390 --> 00:59:55,760
and anti-gravity sort of technology and

1661
00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:56,400
then it just

1662
01:00:00,150 --> 00:59:59,359
disappeared they were all over it for a

1663
01:00:02,150 --> 01:00:00,160
period of time

1664
01:00:04,150 --> 01:00:02,160
and it was in magazines and newspapers

1665
01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:04,160
electrogravitics electrogravidics

1666
01:00:07,589 --> 01:00:06,000
the future of aircraft the future of

1667
01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:07,599
aviation and then it just

1668
01:00:12,630 --> 01:00:11,520
disappeared and i think that a good case

1669
01:00:14,470 --> 01:00:12,640
can be made

1670
01:00:15,910 --> 01:00:14,480
that it disappeared into the black

1671
01:00:18,789 --> 01:00:15,920
budget world

1672
01:00:19,109 --> 01:00:18,799
well it looks like it right i mean if

1673
01:00:21,430 --> 01:00:19,119
you

1674
01:00:22,470 --> 01:00:21,440
really look at the newspaper clippings

1675
01:00:24,150 --> 01:00:22,480
and i

1676
01:00:26,789 --> 01:00:24,160
think i've got all the most important

1677
01:00:28,870 --> 01:00:26,799
ones they were obsessed with

1678
01:00:29,829 --> 01:00:28,880
cracking the gravity barrier not not

1679
01:00:32,870 --> 01:00:29,839
interested in it

1680
01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:32,880
obsessed with it they talked about how

1681
01:00:35,990 --> 01:00:34,960
the first thing we're going to do is we

1682
01:00:39,190 --> 01:00:36,000
are going to conquer

1683
01:00:40,870 --> 01:00:39,200
electricity okay so we've got that then

1684
01:00:41,430 --> 01:00:40,880
they said the next thing we're going to

1685
01:00:44,069 --> 01:00:41,440
do

1686
01:00:45,910 --> 01:00:44,079
is we're going to conquer rocketry so

1687
01:00:47,030 --> 01:00:45,920
they got that then they said the next

1688
01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:47,040
thing that we're going to do

1689
01:00:51,270 --> 01:00:48,960
yeah and all we need is let's just get

1690
01:00:53,109 --> 01:00:51,280
all these nazis and whitewash their

1691
01:00:55,349 --> 01:00:53,119
yeah let's just whitewash all these

1692
01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:55,359
nazis history there you go how many

1693
01:00:57,990 --> 01:00:56,720
thousands of people they killed with

1694
01:00:59,510 --> 01:00:58,000
those v2s

1695
01:01:01,829 --> 01:00:59,520
we could shoot one of those suckers to

1696
01:01:03,510 --> 01:01:01,839
the moon right that's right

1697
01:01:05,109 --> 01:01:03,520
the next thing they wanted to conquer is

1698
01:01:05,430 --> 01:01:05,119
gravity and it looks like they've done

1699
01:01:09,030 --> 01:01:05,440
it

1700
01:01:10,870 --> 01:01:09,040
here

1701
01:01:12,630 --> 01:01:10,880
uh now we've all heard about the jail

1702
01:01:14,549 --> 01:01:12,640
flight 1628

1703
01:01:17,270 --> 01:01:14,559
paris to tokyo overlapping yeah this is

1704
01:01:20,549 --> 01:01:17,280
one of my favorite cases november 7th

1705
01:01:21,190 --> 01:01:20,559
what 1986. now the problem with this

1706
01:01:24,309 --> 01:01:21,200
case is

1707
01:01:25,349 --> 01:01:24,319
anytime you hear about this case you

1708
01:01:27,510 --> 01:01:25,359
never hear about

1709
01:01:28,470 --> 01:01:27,520
the beginning part of this case you only

1710
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:28,480
hear about the big

1711
01:01:33,190 --> 01:01:30,880
mothership part of it well prior to all

1712
01:01:36,829 --> 01:01:33,200
this going on

1713
01:01:40,150 --> 01:01:36,839
the best way to describe this is pilot

1714
01:01:43,190 --> 01:01:40,160
teriyuchi what he ended up seeing is

1715
01:01:44,069 --> 01:01:43,200
he it looks like two campbell soup cans

1716
01:01:46,630 --> 01:01:44,079
cut in half

1717
01:01:47,430 --> 01:01:46,640
okay they were 150 feet in diameter they

1718
01:01:49,829 --> 01:01:47,440
had a black

1719
01:01:52,069 --> 01:01:49,839
plastic piece of electrical tape going

1720
01:01:53,510 --> 01:01:52,079
down the center all the way down and

1721
01:01:56,309 --> 01:01:53,520
then on either side

1722
01:01:58,470 --> 01:01:56,319
there were these stair-step staggered

1723
01:01:59,349 --> 01:01:58,480
amber or red lights that were flashing

1724
01:02:01,510 --> 01:01:59,359
in sequence

1725
01:02:02,789 --> 01:02:01,520
that was the first part of the sighting

1726
01:02:06,150 --> 01:02:02,799
not the mothership

1727
01:02:07,190 --> 01:02:06,160
that came later they ended up tracking

1728
01:02:09,029 --> 01:02:07,200
this thing for like an

1729
01:02:10,549 --> 01:02:09,039
hour and tried to lose this thing they

1730
01:02:12,630 --> 01:02:10,559
called atc

1731
01:02:14,950 --> 01:02:12,640
they were given authorization to do a

1732
01:02:17,670 --> 01:02:14,960
full 360 and these craft

1733
01:02:19,510 --> 01:02:17,680
pace the 747 going 500 miles an hour in

1734
01:02:22,309 --> 01:02:19,520
a complete 360 loop

1735
01:02:24,630 --> 01:02:22,319
and this is all back in 86. all right so

1736
01:02:28,630 --> 01:02:24,640
here we've got the actual miami herald

1737
01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:28,640
article january 4th 1987. faa reviewing

1738
01:02:32,630 --> 01:02:29,440
data from

1739
01:02:32,950 --> 01:02:32,640
night japanese pilot reported now we do

1740
01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:32,960
have

1741
01:02:38,309 --> 01:02:36,160
anchorage alaska we've got the atc

1742
01:02:40,549 --> 01:02:38,319
and on-board tcaf so there's three

1743
01:02:42,150 --> 01:02:40,559
independent radar sources for this which

1744
01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:42,160
i think is very interesting

1745
01:02:45,430 --> 01:02:44,160
here is his original sketch this is from

1746
01:02:47,829 --> 01:02:45,440
the pilot himself

1747
01:02:49,829 --> 01:02:47,839
the commander himself the captain of the

1748
01:02:51,750 --> 01:02:49,839
747

1749
01:02:54,069 --> 01:02:51,760
outside the windshield this is what he

1750
01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:54,079
saw just like that prior illustration i

1751
01:02:56,069 --> 01:02:55,280
showed you and then if you look at the

1752
01:02:59,029 --> 01:02:56,079
bottom

1753
01:03:02,309 --> 01:02:59,039
you can see this walnut shape ufo and

1754
01:03:05,510 --> 01:03:02,319
then the size and scale of his 747

1755
01:03:07,910 --> 01:03:05,520
comparing so we're looking at you know

1756
01:03:09,510 --> 01:03:07,920
four times the size two times the size

1757
01:03:12,950 --> 01:03:09,520
of an aircraft carrier

1758
01:03:14,710 --> 01:03:12,960
according to the the captain of the 747.

1759
01:03:16,309 --> 01:03:14,720
here he is right here describing it now

1760
01:03:18,950 --> 01:03:16,319
he lost his job

1761
01:03:20,390 --> 01:03:18,960
reporting this yeah i remember this

1762
01:03:22,069 --> 01:03:20,400
later reinstated

1763
01:03:23,910 --> 01:03:22,079
this is one of the first times this ever

1764
01:03:26,789 --> 01:03:23,920
happened now uh

1765
01:03:29,430 --> 01:03:26,799
this case went all the way to dr greer

1766
01:03:32,230 --> 01:03:29,440
may 9th 2001 on the disclosure project

1767
01:03:34,150 --> 01:03:32,240
that was the first conference

1768
01:03:35,670 --> 01:03:34,160
this was brought up within that

1769
01:03:38,109 --> 01:03:35,680
conference itself now here's the

1770
01:03:40,630 --> 01:03:38,119
illustration we put together of the

1771
01:03:44,789 --> 01:03:40,640
jl747 with the

1772
01:03:49,109 --> 01:03:44,799
this massive acorn or walnut shaped ufo

1773
01:03:51,589 --> 01:03:49,119
he saw that out the port rear window

1774
01:03:53,589 --> 01:03:51,599
this is from the pilot so that's pretty

1775
01:03:56,470 --> 01:03:53,599
i always love this case because

1776
01:03:57,990 --> 01:03:56,480
of the size of this thing because a 747

1777
01:04:01,109 --> 01:03:58,000
is no small aircraft

1778
01:04:03,910 --> 01:04:01,119
and for this for this ufo to dwarf

1779
01:04:04,230 --> 01:04:03,920
that thing and be described as the size

1780
01:04:06,950 --> 01:04:04,240
of

1781
01:04:07,990 --> 01:04:06,960
two aircraft carriers is is pretty

1782
01:04:10,549 --> 01:04:08,000
amazing to me

1783
01:04:11,349 --> 01:04:10,559
how should that thing even fly that big

1784
01:04:14,470 --> 01:04:11,359
you know

1785
01:04:15,670 --> 01:04:14,480
that's right the yukon territory had a

1786
01:04:19,109 --> 01:04:15,680
history of these

1787
01:04:20,710 --> 01:04:19,119
large ufos so this is not unprecedented

1788
01:04:22,549 --> 01:04:20,720
this is this is something that

1789
01:04:24,470 --> 01:04:22,559
has happened before okay now i want to

1790
01:04:27,589 --> 01:04:24,480
talk about this case which

1791
01:04:30,549 --> 01:04:27,599
isn't really known uh

1792
01:04:31,829 --> 01:04:30,559
credit has to go to my friend antonio

1793
01:04:35,029 --> 01:04:31,839
junaius

1794
01:04:36,470 --> 01:04:35,039
if it wasn't for antonio hinayas no one

1795
01:04:38,390 --> 01:04:36,480
in the united states would know anything

1796
01:04:40,309 --> 01:04:38,400
about this case because he's the one who

1797
01:04:42,950 --> 01:04:40,319
did the spanish translation

1798
01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:42,960
into english and nailed down all the

1799
01:04:46,549 --> 01:04:44,960
points of this particular case so

1800
01:04:49,270 --> 01:04:46,559
credit goes to him for doing this is

1801
01:04:52,549 --> 01:04:49,280
june 22 1976

1802
01:04:54,870 --> 01:04:52,559
canary islands and if you look

1803
01:04:57,190 --> 01:04:54,880
at the right side of this graph you've

1804
01:04:59,109 --> 01:04:57,200
got a little dot there

1805
01:05:01,510 --> 01:04:59,119
on the eastern part of the canary

1806
01:05:04,069 --> 01:05:01,520
islands that was a spanish

1807
01:05:05,510 --> 01:05:04,079
naval ship that first saw this so what i

1808
01:05:07,029 --> 01:05:05,520
want to do is i want to take you there

1809
01:05:09,349 --> 01:05:07,039
right now

1810
01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:09,359
here it is from the deck of the spanish

1811
01:05:12,950 --> 01:05:10,160
naval ship

1812
01:05:14,710 --> 01:05:12,960
atrovida three nautical miles off the

1813
01:05:17,430 --> 01:05:14,720
coast of punta lantern

1814
01:05:19,349 --> 01:05:17,440
lintilla future ventura it's hard to

1815
01:05:22,150 --> 01:05:19,359
pronounce all these things but

1816
01:05:23,829 --> 01:05:22,160
this is what they actually saw and what

1817
01:05:26,870 --> 01:05:23,839
i want to stress to everybody

1818
01:05:29,589 --> 01:05:26,880
is i can tell you for a fact

1819
01:05:31,029 --> 01:05:29,599
that former president clinton knows

1820
01:05:33,109 --> 01:05:31,039
about this case

1821
01:05:37,349 --> 01:05:33,119
and so does hillary clinton she knows

1822
01:05:39,190 --> 01:05:37,359
about it too now how

1823
01:05:42,069 --> 01:05:39,200
it was the lawrence rockefeller

1824
01:05:45,190 --> 01:05:42,079
foundation that funded the research

1825
01:05:47,029 --> 01:05:45,200
that put together the briefing document

1826
01:05:49,349 --> 01:05:47,039
called the best available evidence

1827
01:05:50,470 --> 01:05:49,359
within that briefing document is this

1828
01:05:52,390 --> 01:05:50,480
case

1829
01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:52,400
so this went all the way to the

1830
01:05:56,390 --> 01:05:54,000
president because the president was

1831
01:05:57,589 --> 01:05:56,400
given a copy of this so he knows about

1832
01:05:59,190 --> 01:05:57,599
this

1833
01:06:01,190 --> 01:05:59,200
and what people what people may not be

1834
01:06:04,230 --> 01:06:01,200
aware of is that the clintons had an

1835
01:06:06,309 --> 01:06:04,240
interest in ufos they do yes or they

1836
01:06:07,990 --> 01:06:06,319
were the president and the first lady so

1837
01:06:09,430 --> 01:06:08,000
of course that carried over

1838
01:06:11,910 --> 01:06:09,440
and once they were in that position of

1839
01:06:13,750 --> 01:06:11,920
power both of them have commented that

1840
01:06:15,670 --> 01:06:13,760
they tried to find the truth about ufos

1841
01:06:17,109 --> 01:06:15,680
and weren't given very much information

1842
01:06:19,109 --> 01:06:17,119
and i don't want to interrupt you but i

1843
01:06:21,750 --> 01:06:19,119
want to take a moment to thank brian

1844
01:06:23,190 --> 01:06:21,760
macleod for kind and generous 499 super

1845
01:06:24,710 --> 01:06:23,200
chat donation he says

1846
01:06:26,150 --> 01:06:24,720
keep up the good work steve been away

1847
01:06:27,670 --> 01:06:26,160
for a minute but the stuff you're doing

1848
01:06:29,029 --> 01:06:27,680
is much needed in this field thank you

1849
01:06:30,470 --> 01:06:29,039
for your kindness your generosity and

1850
01:06:32,549 --> 01:06:30,480
your support we're a viewer supported

1851
01:06:35,510 --> 01:06:32,559
show here michael everything

1852
01:06:35,990 --> 01:06:35,520
uh every dollar helps right and helps us

1853
01:06:39,510 --> 01:06:36,000
keep

1854
01:06:42,069 --> 01:06:39,520
see great guests like this

1855
01:06:43,670 --> 01:06:42,079
send me you know tons of money and then

1856
01:06:46,150 --> 01:06:43,680
i can pay guests like

1857
01:06:47,990 --> 01:06:46,160
you know poor michael schratt he is

1858
01:06:49,990 --> 01:06:48,000
everybody's favorite volunteer and i

1859
01:06:51,750 --> 01:06:50,000
know your time is very short so

1860
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:51,760
before i forget i want to just take a

1861
01:06:54,870 --> 01:06:53,119
moment to thank you and

1862
01:06:57,109 --> 01:06:54,880
and recognize you because he's doing a

1863
01:06:59,109 --> 01:06:57,119
public service coming to my

1864
01:07:00,950 --> 01:06:59,119
uh little show here we don't have that

1865
01:07:02,150 --> 01:07:00,960
big of a reach he's normally on much

1866
01:07:04,230 --> 01:07:02,160
bigger shows

1867
01:07:06,150 --> 01:07:04,240
so now he's slumming it with us but

1868
01:07:08,710 --> 01:07:06,160
thank you

1869
01:07:11,990 --> 01:07:08,720
with us michael stratton it's a crusade

1870
01:07:17,510 --> 01:07:15,190
you can't get paid for this uh anyway so

1871
01:07:19,510 --> 01:07:17,520
we'll move on here now

1872
01:07:21,510 --> 01:07:19,520
here's what's interesting the town of

1873
01:07:23,430 --> 01:07:21,520
guay grand canary island

1874
01:07:25,910 --> 01:07:23,440
now we saw the dot that was the first

1875
01:07:28,549 --> 01:07:25,920
part now this thing had headed westbound

1876
01:07:29,910 --> 01:07:28,559
it covered 85 miles in three minutes

1877
01:07:33,430 --> 01:07:29,920
equivalent to 1

1878
01:07:34,630 --> 01:07:33,440
900 miles an hour and made no sonic boom

1879
01:07:37,270 --> 01:07:34,640
and if you look at what the people

1880
01:07:38,789 --> 01:07:37,280
reported here it's like a boring thing

1881
01:07:41,430 --> 01:07:38,799
right it's just this common

1882
01:07:42,390 --> 01:07:41,440
ce1 case it looks like a bright light a

1883
01:07:45,990 --> 01:07:42,400
blob in the sky

1884
01:07:47,190 --> 01:07:46,000
no big deal but what came from this

1885
01:07:50,230 --> 01:07:47,200
light

1886
01:07:52,069 --> 01:07:50,240
was very interesting here is original

1887
01:07:53,789 --> 01:07:52,079
sketch of what the eyewitnesses reported

1888
01:07:57,670 --> 01:07:53,799
this is june 22

1889
01:07:59,349 --> 01:07:57,680
1976 canary island this one

1890
01:08:01,829 --> 01:07:59,359
so he gets the credit for that but what

1891
01:08:05,109 --> 01:08:01,839
they actually saw

1892
01:08:07,750 --> 01:08:05,119
was this transparent soap bubble steven

1893
01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:07,760
that had a platform on the bottom it had

1894
01:08:11,510 --> 01:08:08,880
three of these

1895
01:08:13,190 --> 01:08:11,520
you could call them monuments that were

1896
01:08:16,470 --> 01:08:13,200
on top of the platform

1897
01:08:18,149 --> 01:08:16,480
and then there was these eight foot tall

1898
01:08:20,229 --> 01:08:18,159
you could call them humanoid looking

1899
01:08:21,749 --> 01:08:20,239
beings that have an oversized helmet

1900
01:08:23,829 --> 01:08:21,759
they were operating

1901
01:08:25,990 --> 01:08:23,839
levers they had a one-piece

1902
01:08:27,829 --> 01:08:26,000
tight-fitting red diving suit and then

1903
01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:27,839
there was a clear transparent tube that

1904
01:08:31,910 --> 01:08:30,000
went up with blue colored smoke

1905
01:08:33,430 --> 01:08:31,920
going up through this tube you can't

1906
01:08:35,269 --> 01:08:33,440
make this stuff up

1907
01:08:37,110 --> 01:08:35,279
yeah and you know you know what when i

1908
01:08:39,430 --> 01:08:37,120
when i see this kind of stuff

1909
01:08:41,910 --> 01:08:39,440
you we hear various examples that the

1910
01:08:44,630 --> 01:08:41,920
exterior shell of ufos

1911
01:08:45,189 --> 01:08:44,640
can become transparent from the inside

1912
01:08:48,229 --> 01:08:45,199
or

1913
01:08:50,070 --> 01:08:48,239
i see this i go

1914
01:08:52,229 --> 01:08:50,080
yeah maybe they let the cloak down and

1915
01:08:54,309 --> 01:08:52,239
you could see right through this thing

1916
01:08:56,229 --> 01:08:54,319
even the occupants right interesting

1917
01:08:58,070 --> 01:08:56,239
it's possible it's possible

1918
01:08:59,669 --> 01:08:58,080
so here's the final rendering that we

1919
01:09:00,470 --> 01:08:59,679
put together of what this thing looked

1920
01:09:03,749 --> 01:09:00,480
like

1921
01:09:07,030 --> 01:09:03,759
but this whole concept of an

1922
01:09:08,950 --> 01:09:07,040
of a diving suit or a very tight fitting

1923
01:09:09,829 --> 01:09:08,960
flight suit that keeps popping up again

1924
01:09:11,430 --> 01:09:09,839
and again

1925
01:09:14,630 --> 01:09:11,440
as well now so here we've got 11

1926
01:09:17,189 --> 01:09:14,640
eyewitnesses including the taxi driver

1927
01:09:18,390 --> 01:09:17,199
a doctor of his patients it was 25 feet

1928
01:09:21,430 --> 01:09:18,400
in diameter so there was

1929
01:09:23,829 --> 01:09:21,440
multiple eyewitnesses that saw this

1930
01:09:24,789 --> 01:09:23,839
particular soap bubble you could call it

1931
01:09:27,990 --> 01:09:24,799
operating these

1932
01:09:31,669 --> 01:09:28,000
levers very unusual

1933
01:09:33,510 --> 01:09:31,679
um so we've got the gas that's being

1934
01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:33,520
but then we've got this central column

1935
01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:35,440
and i think we've seen

1936
01:09:39,910 --> 01:09:38,080
that central column in other things that

1937
01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:39,920
we can talk about later but

1938
01:09:43,669 --> 01:09:41,440
this is just something that i wanted to

1939
01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:43,679
present as being something that

1940
01:09:47,349 --> 01:09:45,359
both hillary clinton and bill clinton

1941
01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:47,359
are aware of okay

1942
01:09:52,630 --> 01:09:50,719
1976 dana point california this one came

1943
01:09:55,669 --> 01:09:52,640
from the qfos archive so

1944
01:09:56,550 --> 01:09:55,679
the primary eyewitness uh was driving

1945
01:09:59,510 --> 01:09:56,560
down the road

1946
01:10:01,189 --> 01:09:59,520
she had her two kids with them so there

1947
01:10:03,510 --> 01:10:01,199
were three eyewitnesses

1948
01:10:04,550 --> 01:10:03,520
all of a sudden this quote unquote fat

1949
01:10:06,950 --> 01:10:04,560
frisbee

1950
01:10:09,189 --> 01:10:06,960
goes right past their windshield and

1951
01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:09,199
they got a real good look at it

1952
01:10:15,030 --> 01:10:12,719
steve and she said that this thing had

1953
01:10:17,270 --> 01:10:15,040
thousands of these computer micro

1954
01:10:18,870 --> 01:10:17,280
processing lights that were flashing

1955
01:10:21,030 --> 01:10:18,880
all these different colors and it had a

1956
01:10:22,630 --> 01:10:21,040
red blinking light on top

1957
01:10:24,229 --> 01:10:22,640
here's the actual newspaper clipping

1958
01:10:25,990 --> 01:10:24,239
article that talks about it

1959
01:10:27,910 --> 01:10:26,000
and you can see this thing going right

1960
01:10:29,669 --> 01:10:27,920
past the windshield

1961
01:10:30,950 --> 01:10:29,679
and then here's my autocad rendering

1962
01:10:31,590 --> 01:10:30,960
that shows you what this thing looks

1963
01:10:33,830 --> 01:10:31,600
like

1964
01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:33,840
and this is not the first time this has

1965
01:10:38,630 --> 01:10:36,000
happened there are other cases

1966
01:10:40,470 --> 01:10:38,640
of this fat frisbee with these micro

1967
01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:40,480
processing lights

1968
01:10:44,310 --> 01:10:42,640
all flashing different colors you know

1969
01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:44,320
what's always been interesting to me is

1970
01:10:47,669 --> 01:10:45,040
this

1971
01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:47,679
is is the lights on ufos but you know

1972
01:10:50,550 --> 01:10:49,360
i've heard grant cameron and others talk

1973
01:10:53,590 --> 01:10:50,560
about like they

1974
01:10:56,390 --> 01:10:53,600
it's the circus they want to be seen

1975
01:10:58,310 --> 01:10:56,400
because you gotta imagine like let's say

1976
01:11:00,550 --> 01:10:58,320
for example michael we found

1977
01:11:01,990 --> 01:11:00,560
a primitive civilization on another

1978
01:11:04,709 --> 01:11:02,000
planet that we could get to

1979
01:11:05,590 --> 01:11:04,719
and we wanted to study them i think that

1980
01:11:09,750 --> 01:11:05,600
we would

1981
01:11:12,070 --> 01:11:09,760
lights

1982
01:11:12,790 --> 01:11:12,080
on our craft as we're surveying these

1983
01:11:14,790 --> 01:11:12,800
people

1984
01:11:16,149 --> 01:11:14,800
it's almost as if they want to be seen

1985
01:11:19,430 --> 01:11:16,159
they want us to

1986
01:11:19,910 --> 01:11:19,440
experience them or have this encounter

1987
01:11:22,070 --> 01:11:19,920
and tell

1988
01:11:23,430 --> 01:11:22,080
other people it just doesn't make any

1989
01:11:25,270 --> 01:11:23,440
sense to me that they'd have all these

1990
01:11:26,950 --> 01:11:25,280
fl and we hear this time and time again

1991
01:11:29,270 --> 01:11:26,960
it had flashing red lights

1992
01:11:32,630 --> 01:11:29,280
that moved in a sequence or it had you

1993
01:11:35,350 --> 01:11:32,640
know a blue aura around it that flashed

1994
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:35,360
it's it's like they won they want the

1995
01:11:38,550 --> 01:11:36,239
attention of

1996
01:11:40,229 --> 01:11:38,560
of these humans that they're interacting

1997
01:11:42,470 --> 01:11:40,239
with if they are indeed alien or

1998
01:11:44,709 --> 01:11:42,480
interdimensional or something like that

1999
01:11:46,390 --> 01:11:44,719
it's just interesting to me what do you

2000
01:11:48,709 --> 01:11:46,400
make of the of the circus

2001
01:11:50,550 --> 01:11:48,719
is it a circus well correct steve well

2002
01:11:51,110 --> 01:11:50,560
done brother well done that's exactly my

2003
01:11:54,229 --> 01:11:51,120
thought too

2004
01:11:56,310 --> 01:11:54,239
even stanton friedman our good friend

2005
01:11:57,510 --> 01:11:56,320
the late stanton friedman he even chimed

2006
01:12:00,870 --> 01:11:57,520
in on that as well

2007
01:12:03,430 --> 01:12:00,880
because his direct quote was lights on

2008
01:12:05,750 --> 01:12:03,440
ufos could only be for decoration

2009
01:12:06,870 --> 01:12:05,760
that's it what do they need lights for

2010
01:12:08,550 --> 01:12:06,880
what do they care

2011
01:12:10,390 --> 01:12:08,560
who are they going to run to you know

2012
01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:10,400
who are they going to run into

2013
01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:12,880
um and not only that is that when we see

2014
01:12:15,990 --> 01:12:13,760
these craft

2015
01:12:17,990 --> 01:12:16,000
the lights are always in sequence even

2016
01:12:19,750 --> 01:12:18,000
like the reds go off the blues go off

2017
01:12:21,590 --> 01:12:19,760
the greens go up and yellows go up it's

2018
01:12:23,590 --> 01:12:21,600
all in sequence it's planned

2019
01:12:26,390 --> 01:12:23,600
there's an intelligent design behind

2020
01:12:29,350 --> 01:12:26,400
this but why would they need it

2021
01:12:30,790 --> 01:12:29,360
it's like decoration chris is asking a

2022
01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:30,800
great question he's asking what would be

2023
01:12:35,430 --> 01:12:32,800
the size of this one

2024
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:35,440
oh yeah okay so uh let's see i don't

2025
01:12:41,350 --> 01:12:38,320
know if i've got that down here

2026
01:12:44,390 --> 01:12:41,360
i think it's about 40 feet tall

2027
01:12:44,709 --> 01:12:44,400
40 feet across and i gauge that because

2028
01:12:46,470 --> 01:12:44,719
of

2029
01:12:48,149 --> 01:12:46,480
something i want to show you here but

2030
01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:48,159
here is the illustration that we put

2031
01:12:53,750 --> 01:12:50,000
together with tom bogan

2032
01:12:56,709 --> 01:12:53,760
now when we do the cars we give you

2033
01:12:58,229 --> 01:12:56,719
not a similar make and model but we give

2034
01:13:01,430 --> 01:12:58,239
you the exact same

2035
01:13:04,630 --> 01:13:03,030
yep i don't know about the color but

2036
01:13:06,630 --> 01:13:04,640
this is the exactly this is again the

2037
01:13:07,510 --> 01:13:06,640
detail the level of detail that michael

2038
01:13:10,070 --> 01:13:07,520
schreck goes to

2039
01:13:11,110 --> 01:13:10,080
to give you the best rendering that he

2040
01:13:13,510 --> 01:13:11,120
possibly can

2041
01:13:14,470 --> 01:13:13,520
yeah i gotta admire respect are you a

2042
01:13:17,590 --> 01:13:14,480
little ocd

2043
01:13:17,990 --> 01:13:17,600
or something maybe oh well we want to

2044
01:13:19,590 --> 01:13:18,000
get you

2045
01:13:22,630 --> 01:13:19,600
plus or minus five feet to where it

2046
01:13:24,870 --> 01:13:22,640
actually took place yeah it is though

2047
01:13:27,030 --> 01:13:24,880
he goes to the ed michael track goes to

2048
01:13:28,950 --> 01:13:27,040
the ends of the earth down to every tiny

2049
01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:28,960
little detail to make sure that his

2050
01:13:33,350 --> 01:13:30,480
drawings are as close

2051
01:13:35,110 --> 01:13:33,360
to what what happened as possible and i

2052
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:35,120
gotta admire and respect that

2053
01:13:39,669 --> 01:13:37,760
for sure so if you look to the right

2054
01:13:41,590 --> 01:13:39,679
stephen you can see that uh

2055
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:41,600
bend to the right side now to the right

2056
01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:43,440
of that there's an electrical

2057
01:13:48,310 --> 01:13:46,560
pole a telephone pole take a look at the

2058
01:13:49,270 --> 01:13:48,320
height of that telephone pole it will

2059
01:13:52,229 --> 01:13:49,280
become

2060
01:13:53,830 --> 01:13:52,239
important in a minute here uh what the

2061
01:13:56,630 --> 01:13:53,840
witness said

2062
01:13:57,350 --> 01:13:56,640
she said that this ufo tipped up 90

2063
01:13:59,590 --> 01:13:57,360
degrees and

2064
01:14:00,709 --> 01:13:59,600
rolled away like a wagon wheel that's

2065
01:14:01,990 --> 01:14:00,719
what she said

2066
01:14:03,830 --> 01:14:02,000
wow that's absolutely that's what we've

2067
01:14:06,470 --> 01:14:03,840
got here and it basically

2068
01:14:07,669 --> 01:14:06,480
matched the height of this telephone

2069
01:14:09,350 --> 01:14:07,679
pole

2070
01:14:11,270 --> 01:14:09,360
maybe a little bit more so we're looking

2071
01:14:13,510 --> 01:14:11,280
at 50 60 feet across

2072
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:13,520
50 60 feet in diameter something like

2073
01:14:16,470 --> 01:14:15,440
that solar warden is asking a great

2074
01:14:18,070 --> 01:14:16,480
question and

2075
01:14:20,149 --> 01:14:18,080
i'd love to know what you what you think

2076
01:14:22,950 --> 01:14:20,159
about this and also cars

2077
01:14:24,950 --> 01:14:22,960
you know uh their electrical systems

2078
01:14:26,630 --> 01:14:24,960
dying is a common occurrence with ufo

2079
01:14:28,470 --> 01:14:26,640
sightings but solar warden asks mike

2080
01:14:30,310 --> 01:14:28,480
what about cars becoming completely

2081
01:14:35,270 --> 01:14:30,320
magnetized or showing

2082
01:14:38,310 --> 01:14:35,280
anomalous radiation yeah well

2083
01:14:40,149 --> 01:14:38,320
if you go back to cash landrum

2084
01:14:43,189 --> 01:14:40,159
remember when betty cat now this is

2085
01:14:43,990 --> 01:14:43,199
december 29th 1980 when betty cash went

2086
01:14:46,870 --> 01:14:44,000
to go back

2087
01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:46,880
into her car she reached out with her

2088
01:14:50,870 --> 01:14:47,760
hand

2089
01:14:53,590 --> 01:14:50,880
and she

2090
01:14:54,790 --> 01:14:53,600
burned her hand on the car door handle

2091
01:14:59,830 --> 01:14:54,800
and it was december

2092
01:15:03,110 --> 01:14:59,840
29th of 1980 when she got in

2093
01:15:07,510 --> 01:15:03,120
there it was it was

2094
01:15:10,790 --> 01:15:07,520
uh vicki landrum who put her hands

2095
01:15:12,630 --> 01:15:10,800
on the dashboard and her hands basically

2096
01:15:14,070 --> 01:15:12,640
melted into the dashboard so

2097
01:15:16,070 --> 01:15:14,080
my question is steven do you know what

2098
01:15:16,630 --> 01:15:16,080
the air force tried to do after all this

2099
01:15:18,709 --> 01:15:16,640
happened

2100
01:15:20,229 --> 01:15:18,719
i know that they dug up well i don't

2101
01:15:21,510 --> 01:15:20,239
know if it was the air force but i

2102
01:15:23,590 --> 01:15:21,520
one of the things that's always been

2103
01:15:26,950 --> 01:15:23,600
crazy interesting to me

2104
01:15:30,790 --> 01:15:26,960
is that the doctors who who saw

2105
01:15:32,470 --> 01:15:30,800
these these witnesses said you've been

2106
01:15:34,310 --> 01:15:32,480
you've been a victim of radiation

2107
01:15:36,390 --> 01:15:34,320
poisoning and then

2108
01:15:38,709 --> 01:15:36,400
i know that for one reason or another

2109
01:15:40,790 --> 01:15:38,719
the entire section of road

2110
01:15:43,830 --> 01:15:40,800
related to the incident was dug up and

2111
01:15:46,790 --> 01:15:43,840
replaced shortly after the incident

2112
01:15:47,430 --> 01:15:46,800
well done sir well well done not only

2113
01:15:50,830 --> 01:15:47,440
was the

2114
01:15:51,990 --> 01:15:50,840
burn mark dug up by the army corps of

2115
01:15:54,310 --> 01:15:52,000
engineers

2116
01:15:55,590 --> 01:15:54,320
but they dug it up twice stephen they

2117
01:15:57,990 --> 01:15:55,600
did it twice

2118
01:15:59,669 --> 01:15:58,000
can you believe that twice and that

2119
01:16:00,390 --> 01:15:59,679
could have been because of radiation

2120
01:16:03,750 --> 01:16:00,400
levels

2121
01:16:08,709 --> 01:16:06,709
the air force tried to buy betty cash's

2122
01:16:10,470 --> 01:16:08,719
car

2123
01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:10,480
wow you're kidding me i never knew that

2124
01:16:15,270 --> 01:16:13,360
detail very few people know that yes

2125
01:16:16,390 --> 01:16:15,280
they tried to buy her car now why is

2126
01:16:19,590 --> 01:16:16,400
that is isn't that

2127
01:16:21,830 --> 01:16:19,600
funny isn't that funny yeah and it would

2128
01:16:25,350 --> 01:16:21,840
stand to reason that if this thing was

2129
01:16:27,669 --> 01:16:25,360
blowing out nuclear fire from the bottom

2130
01:16:28,950 --> 01:16:27,679
of it as described by the witnesses onto

2131
01:16:32,149 --> 01:16:28,960
the road surface

2132
01:16:34,310 --> 01:16:32,159
irradiated and they would have wanted to

2133
01:16:36,470 --> 01:16:34,320
get rid of that i've i

2134
01:16:38,470 --> 01:16:36,480
i've i've often thought that because of

2135
01:16:40,149 --> 01:16:38,480
the chinook helicopters

2136
01:16:41,510 --> 01:16:40,159
that that were seen and all these other

2137
01:16:43,750 --> 01:16:41,520
things that this was a

2138
01:16:45,270 --> 01:16:43,760
military test flight and i talked to

2139
01:16:46,070 --> 01:16:45,280
stanton freeman about this before his

2140
01:16:48,709 --> 01:16:46,080
death and he

2141
01:16:50,790 --> 01:16:48,719
thought he thought that it was and he

2142
01:16:53,590 --> 01:16:50,800
worked on these things so he would know

2143
01:16:54,790 --> 01:16:53,600
he thought that it was a nuclear jet or

2144
01:16:57,430 --> 01:16:54,800
nuclear rocket

2145
01:16:58,709 --> 01:16:57,440
powered craft in this case and i just

2146
01:17:00,709 --> 01:16:58,719
want to take a moment to thank

2147
01:17:01,990 --> 01:17:00,719
uh reemsie for kind and generous five

2148
01:17:04,229 --> 01:17:02,000
dollar donation with a good

2149
01:17:05,669 --> 01:17:04,239
question are these cool illustrations

2150
01:17:08,149 --> 01:17:05,679
from michael stratt published in a

2151
01:17:10,550 --> 01:17:08,159
physical book that i can purchase

2152
01:17:12,550 --> 01:17:10,560
or do you want to let people know right

2153
01:17:14,950 --> 01:17:12,560
now it's ebooks physical book but

2154
01:17:16,149 --> 01:17:14,960
in the e-book format and what i am going

2155
01:17:18,470 --> 01:17:16,159
to do is i'm going to put

2156
01:17:20,470 --> 01:17:18,480
all of these and more because we got a

2157
01:17:22,790 --> 01:17:20,480
boatload of this

2158
01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:22,800
in in a hardcover book that you can put

2159
01:17:27,270 --> 01:17:24,239
on your coffee table and it'll

2160
01:17:27,590 --> 01:17:27,280
i want i want i want this book i want

2161
01:17:30,229 --> 01:17:27,600
this

2162
01:17:30,630 --> 01:17:30,239
fully illustrated they're all referenced

2163
01:17:32,229 --> 01:17:30,640
like

2164
01:17:33,830 --> 01:17:32,239
everything we're talking about here i've

2165
01:17:35,510 --> 01:17:33,840
shown you the newspaper clippings of

2166
01:17:37,350 --> 01:17:35,520
where i got this i didn't just make this

2167
01:17:38,390 --> 01:17:37,360
up these are actual cases that we pulled

2168
01:17:40,070 --> 01:17:38,400
from qfos so

2169
01:17:41,830 --> 01:17:40,080
no and i just wanted to take a moment to

2170
01:17:43,430 --> 01:17:41,840
say that uh you know michael i

2171
01:17:44,950 --> 01:17:43,440
mentioned this on my show like people

2172
01:17:47,030 --> 01:17:44,960
ask me because we

2173
01:17:48,870 --> 01:17:47,040
we bust balls on a lot of fakes and

2174
01:17:50,709 --> 01:17:48,880
frauds and things like that

2175
01:17:52,709 --> 01:17:50,719
and and then people ask me like well is

2176
01:17:55,189 --> 01:17:52,719
there any ufo cases that you

2177
01:17:56,950 --> 01:17:55,199
believe yeah there's plenty and is there

2178
01:17:58,470 --> 01:17:56,960
researchers yeah people like michael's

2179
01:18:00,390 --> 01:17:58,480
frat who actually have

2180
01:18:01,830 --> 01:18:00,400
source material and the hallmark of a

2181
01:18:03,669 --> 01:18:01,840
great researcher and

2182
01:18:05,030 --> 01:18:03,679
and this and this certainly applies to

2183
01:18:07,350 --> 01:18:05,040
michael schratt is that

2184
01:18:09,270 --> 01:18:07,360
he gives you his sources and you can go

2185
01:18:10,709 --> 01:18:09,280
after him and find the exact same

2186
01:18:13,030 --> 01:18:10,719
information he did

2187
01:18:14,310 --> 01:18:13,040
he's not using anonymous sources or made

2188
01:18:16,390 --> 01:18:14,320
up whistleblowers

2189
01:18:18,390 --> 01:18:16,400
with fake educations and things like

2190
01:18:19,750 --> 01:18:18,400
that and thank you very much reemsy for

2191
01:18:21,110 --> 01:18:19,760
your kindness and your generosity and

2192
01:18:24,550 --> 01:18:21,120
your support of the show

2193
01:18:25,270 --> 01:18:24,560
very much appreciated yeah michael there

2194
01:18:29,110 --> 01:18:25,280
needs to be

2195
01:18:30,149 --> 01:18:29,120
categories i really think of ufo guys

2196
01:18:32,630 --> 01:18:30,159
there needs to be

2197
01:18:34,790 --> 01:18:32,640
the fairy tale hucksters that will sell

2198
01:18:37,110 --> 01:18:34,800
you anything with terrible sources

2199
01:18:38,390 --> 01:18:37,120
with fake educations and you know fake

2200
01:18:41,430 --> 01:18:38,400
doctors

2201
01:18:43,830 --> 01:18:41,440
you know and and people like you i put

2202
01:18:45,270 --> 01:18:43,840
into a separate category or stan freeman

2203
01:18:47,110 --> 01:18:45,280
or some other people

2204
01:18:48,550 --> 01:18:47,120
that i really like because they show you

2205
01:18:50,229 --> 01:18:48,560
their sources

2206
01:18:52,229 --> 01:18:50,239
and i've always liked that about you is

2207
01:18:54,070 --> 01:18:52,239
that if i'm interested in a case that

2208
01:18:55,910 --> 01:18:54,080
you're talking about in a lecture

2209
01:18:58,310 --> 01:18:55,920
you give me the sources and i can go

2210
01:19:01,350 --> 01:18:58,320
read more about it and i can find out

2211
01:19:02,550 --> 01:19:01,360
more you know that is the scientific

2212
01:19:04,310 --> 01:19:02,560
method right so

2213
01:19:05,590 --> 01:19:04,320
i'm supposed to be able to provide you

2214
01:19:07,910 --> 01:19:05,600
with the references

2215
01:19:09,350 --> 01:19:07,920
and then you're supposed to do your

2216
01:19:11,750 --> 01:19:09,360
homework and then

2217
01:19:12,870 --> 01:19:11,760
get to the same results that i did

2218
01:19:15,030 --> 01:19:12,880
that's the science

2219
01:19:17,110 --> 01:19:15,040
process yeah that's how i felt about

2220
01:19:18,229 --> 01:19:17,120
this recent investigation into mark

2221
01:19:20,390 --> 01:19:18,239
mccandlish i said

2222
01:19:21,830 --> 01:19:20,400
i have all the sources i'll give them

2223
01:19:22,950 --> 01:19:21,840
out i'll give you the names of every

2224
01:19:24,630 --> 01:19:22,960
person that i talk to

2225
01:19:26,870 --> 01:19:24,640
and you'll get the same answers that i

2226
01:19:30,229 --> 01:19:26,880
there you go that is the hallmark and

2227
01:19:31,990 --> 01:19:30,239
uh we want to thank rylo 704 for his

2228
01:19:33,510 --> 01:19:32,000
kindness and generosity support 10

2229
01:19:35,750 --> 01:19:33,520
super chat and he has an excellent

2230
01:19:37,830 --> 01:19:35,760
question is it possible to determine the

2231
01:19:38,390 --> 01:19:37,840
radioactive source by the radiation left

2232
01:19:40,790 --> 01:19:38,400
behind

2233
01:19:42,630 --> 01:19:40,800
if so then it's possible that removing

2234
01:19:44,870 --> 01:19:42,640
the road was about concealment

2235
01:19:46,790 --> 01:19:44,880
rather than safety government doesn't

2236
01:19:48,790 --> 01:19:46,800
care about safety

2237
01:19:50,390 --> 01:19:48,800
yeah yeah i think they were trying to

2238
01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:50,400
cover their tracks why else would they

2239
01:19:54,149 --> 01:19:51,520
dig up the road

2240
01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:54,159
twice and try to buy her car they tried

2241
01:19:57,750 --> 01:19:55,040
to buy her car

2242
01:19:59,990 --> 01:19:57,760
yes somebody with a radiation with a

2243
01:20:01,669 --> 01:20:00,000
radiation monitor a geiger counter could

2244
01:20:02,630 --> 01:20:01,679
have certainly proven that that car got

2245
01:20:05,750 --> 01:20:02,640
it radiated

2246
01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:05,760
right that's right there you go

2247
01:20:09,990 --> 01:20:07,360
yeah and the signs of radiation

2248
01:20:12,550 --> 01:20:10,000
poisoning to a doctor are very plain

2249
01:20:15,110 --> 01:20:12,560
you know they're very they're they had

2250
01:20:16,950 --> 01:20:15,120
every sign of radiation poisoning that

2251
01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:16,960
people who are exposed to high levels of

2252
01:20:21,189 --> 01:20:18,400
radiation get

2253
01:20:22,870 --> 01:20:21,199
it happened immediately immediately

2254
01:20:24,310 --> 01:20:22,880
before they even got home and started

2255
01:20:27,830 --> 01:20:24,320
happening

2256
01:20:30,390 --> 01:20:27,840
yeah yeah so interesting

2257
01:20:32,390 --> 01:20:30,400
you know it's kind of scary to me though

2258
01:20:34,149 --> 01:20:32,400
to know then that our government is just

2259
01:20:35,430 --> 01:20:34,159
you know endangering the public why

2260
01:20:37,350 --> 01:20:35,440
wouldn't they fly that thing out in the

2261
01:20:39,590 --> 01:20:37,360
middle of the desert somewhere maybe it

2262
01:20:40,470 --> 01:20:39,600
had problems and went off course or

2263
01:20:42,390 --> 01:20:40,480
whatever

2264
01:20:44,870 --> 01:20:42,400
but the fact that they would be flying

2265
01:20:47,030 --> 01:20:44,880
it in populated areas and just like

2266
01:20:48,870 --> 01:20:47,040
shooting radiation out on people and

2267
01:20:52,229 --> 01:20:48,880
then covering it up

2268
01:20:54,709 --> 01:20:52,239
this is why i don't trust the government

2269
01:20:55,590 --> 01:20:54,719
so if there if there were 23 double

2270
01:20:58,950 --> 01:20:55,600
rotor

2271
01:21:00,390 --> 01:20:58,960
chinook ch-47s and then there were a

2272
01:21:03,510 --> 01:21:00,400
pilot and co-pilot

2273
01:21:04,629 --> 01:21:03,520
of each one of those we're looking at

2274
01:21:08,149 --> 01:21:04,639
well over 40

2275
01:21:09,910 --> 01:21:08,159
45 50 people that saw this in addition

2276
01:21:11,910 --> 01:21:09,920
to the three eyewitnesses

2277
01:21:14,149 --> 01:21:11,920
so where are the pilots that's what i

2278
01:21:15,189 --> 01:21:14,159
want to know what about the pilots of

2279
01:21:18,149 --> 01:21:15,199
the helicopters

2280
01:21:18,709 --> 01:21:18,159
they know what happened yeah and that's

2281
01:21:21,030 --> 01:21:18,719
another thing

2282
01:21:22,070 --> 01:21:21,040
they there's not like six chinook

2283
01:21:25,110 --> 01:21:22,080
helicopters

2284
01:21:27,110 --> 01:21:25,120
flying around for no reason that's very

2285
01:21:27,510 --> 01:21:27,120
expensive aircraft to operate i would

2286
01:21:29,830 --> 01:21:27,520
think

2287
01:21:31,110 --> 01:21:29,840
double plated huge helicopter usually

2288
01:21:35,189 --> 01:21:31,120
used for cargo

2289
01:21:35,990 --> 01:21:35,199
transporting right it counted 23 of

2290
01:21:38,070 --> 01:21:36,000
these things

2291
01:21:39,590 --> 01:21:38,080
so you know it had a pilot and a coal

2292
01:21:41,990 --> 01:21:39,600
pilot probably had

2293
01:21:42,870 --> 01:21:42,000
maybe delta force or something so we

2294
01:21:46,070 --> 01:21:42,880
could be looking at

2295
01:21:48,790 --> 01:21:46,080
60 70 people that know somebody

2296
01:21:49,750 --> 01:21:48,800
knows the bottom line of this you know

2297
01:21:51,350 --> 01:21:49,760
they do

2298
01:21:52,790 --> 01:21:51,360
yeah maybe someday we'll get more

2299
01:21:55,510 --> 01:21:52,800
information a

2300
01:21:57,510 --> 01:21:55,520
bs alert buddy is is mentioning and and

2301
01:21:58,149 --> 01:21:57,520
as far as i know bs alert buddy this is

2302
01:22:00,070 --> 01:21:58,159
true

2303
01:22:01,830 --> 01:22:00,080
richard hoagland apparently canceled

2304
01:22:03,669 --> 01:22:01,840
whatever he was up to with morningstar

2305
01:22:05,270 --> 01:22:03,679
who was the originator of the

2306
01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:05,280
mark mccandless fairy tales and

2307
01:22:09,990 --> 01:22:07,840
conspiracy theories about his death so

2308
01:22:11,910 --> 01:22:10,000
if nothing else that's good because

2309
01:22:13,910 --> 01:22:11,920
hogan's got a pretty huge platform and

2310
01:22:15,270 --> 01:22:13,920
we would prefer that he wasn't spreading

2311
01:22:17,590 --> 01:22:15,280
false information

2312
01:22:19,110 --> 01:22:17,600
and renee miss jonas has an excellent

2313
01:22:22,310 --> 01:22:19,120
she's asking do you know what happened

2314
01:22:27,590 --> 01:22:25,830
uh betty's car yeah i don't know

2315
01:22:29,910 --> 01:22:27,600
i think she kept it i don't know where

2316
01:22:31,830 --> 01:22:29,920
it is now but she she did not sell it

2317
01:22:34,550 --> 01:22:31,840
that's from what i understand but i know

2318
01:22:37,590 --> 01:22:34,560
for a fact that they try to buy it

2319
01:22:39,189 --> 01:22:37,600
yeah that's that's very interesting to

2320
01:22:39,590 --> 01:22:39,199
me and could be part of the cover-up for

2321
01:22:41,110 --> 01:22:39,600
sure

2322
01:22:42,470 --> 01:22:41,120
i've never heard that little detail

2323
01:22:44,550 --> 01:22:42,480
every once in a while i hear a new

2324
01:22:46,470 --> 01:22:44,560
detail about a case that i had no idea

2325
01:22:49,030 --> 01:22:46,480
about so i'm not

2326
01:22:50,229 --> 01:22:49,040
and and was this her just her testimony

2327
01:22:53,110 --> 01:22:50,239
that you got that from or

2328
01:22:54,950 --> 01:22:53,120
no i got that long time ago when i was

2329
01:22:56,629 --> 01:22:54,960
digging into the newspaper clippings

2330
01:22:58,149 --> 01:22:56,639
about that case when i wrote an article

2331
01:23:00,629 --> 01:22:58,159
on it wow

2332
01:23:01,350 --> 01:23:00,639
it was in a newspaper article great yep

2333
01:23:03,590 --> 01:23:01,360
the uh

2334
01:23:04,790 --> 01:23:03,600
the case was thrown out the judge

2335
01:23:07,430 --> 01:23:04,800
wouldn't hear it

2336
01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:07,440
and they talked about how the air force

2337
01:23:11,910 --> 01:23:08,880
tried to buy her car

2338
01:23:13,910 --> 01:23:11,920
now why would they want to do that yes

2339
01:23:15,430 --> 01:23:13,920
yeah and isn't it true that the family

2340
01:23:16,950 --> 01:23:15,440
for years they try to like sue the

2341
01:23:18,070 --> 01:23:16,960
government to get to the truth about

2342
01:23:20,310 --> 01:23:18,080
what happened

2343
01:23:22,070 --> 01:23:20,320
yes they did and they got stopped at

2344
01:23:24,870 --> 01:23:22,080
every turn right

2345
01:23:26,950 --> 01:23:24,880
betty cash has passed vicki landrum has

2346
01:23:28,310 --> 01:23:26,960
passed so colby landrum is the only one

2347
01:23:30,950 --> 01:23:28,320
left

2348
01:23:32,830 --> 01:23:30,960
yeah the sun and it doesn't it was just

2349
01:23:35,750 --> 01:23:32,840
the 30th anniversary of that case i

2350
01:23:38,149 --> 01:23:35,760
think the 1980s when it happened so

2351
01:23:39,510 --> 01:23:38,159
it's been a long time it's been a long

2352
01:23:42,870 --> 01:23:39,520
time

2353
01:23:43,510 --> 01:23:42,880
yeah or 40th maybe yeah i have to do the

2354
01:23:47,189 --> 01:23:43,520
math

2355
01:23:49,910 --> 01:23:47,199
interesting interesting case so on this

2356
01:23:54,229 --> 01:23:49,920
one it's november 20th 1956

2357
01:23:56,629 --> 01:23:54,239
danielson connecticut 25 feet across now

2358
01:23:58,470 --> 01:23:56,639
the woman involved in this case she was

2359
01:23:58,870 --> 01:23:58,480
hanging up laundry at the time now we've

2360
01:24:00,229 --> 01:23:58,880
got it

2361
01:24:01,990 --> 01:24:00,239
a little bit later in the day so that

2362
01:24:05,270 --> 01:24:02,000
you can actually see it and what she

2363
01:24:06,149 --> 01:24:05,280
saw is what i termed the flying vanity

2364
01:24:07,830 --> 01:24:06,159
light

2365
01:24:09,910 --> 01:24:07,840
you got to give these things a name for

2366
01:24:12,550 --> 01:24:09,920
each one

2367
01:24:13,110 --> 01:24:12,560
just like pablo the jello mold yeah

2368
01:24:17,750 --> 01:24:13,120
right

2369
01:24:21,510 --> 01:24:20,070
now she said that on the bottom of this

2370
01:24:24,709 --> 01:24:21,520
dome that was cut in half

2371
01:24:28,229 --> 01:24:24,719
like a globe sliced in half

2372
01:24:29,669 --> 01:24:28,239
there were these 24 sockets each socket

2373
01:24:31,590 --> 01:24:29,679
had a bulb on it

2374
01:24:32,950 --> 01:24:31,600
and then three donuts as well we'll

2375
01:24:34,709 --> 01:24:32,960
we'll look at that a little bit later

2376
01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:34,719
this is another one with all kinds of

2377
01:24:38,950 --> 01:24:36,960
lights on it yeah yep all kinds of

2378
01:24:40,950 --> 01:24:38,960
lights now this thing dropped down

2379
01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:40,960
went over the lawn almost hit the

2380
01:24:44,310 --> 01:24:42,400
clothesline went back

2381
01:24:46,470 --> 01:24:44,320
up almost hit the chimney and then flew

2382
01:24:47,350 --> 01:24:46,480
away but she got directly below this

2383
01:24:49,430 --> 01:24:47,360
thing

2384
01:24:51,430 --> 01:24:49,440
she recently died about two years ago so

2385
01:24:53,669 --> 01:24:51,440
i missed her by just a bit

2386
01:24:55,110 --> 01:24:53,679
but if we'll do an enlargement here you

2387
01:24:57,750 --> 01:24:55,120
can see what these

2388
01:24:59,110 --> 01:24:57,760
sockets look like they were rotating

2389
01:25:02,229 --> 01:24:59,120
they had multi-colored

2390
01:25:05,510 --> 01:25:02,239
uh lights but then if you look at these

2391
01:25:07,030 --> 01:25:05,520
donuts or rings we'll do a blow up here

2392
01:25:08,310 --> 01:25:07,040
that's what it looked like so you've got

2393
01:25:11,110 --> 01:25:08,320
the main

2394
01:25:13,270 --> 01:25:11,120
dome or globe and then you've got three

2395
01:25:15,350 --> 01:25:13,280
of these donuts separated by a black

2396
01:25:17,910 --> 01:25:15,360
band now she also said

2397
01:25:19,189 --> 01:25:17,920
that on the bottom of these donuts she

2398
01:25:22,229 --> 01:25:19,199
could see what looked like

2399
01:25:23,430 --> 01:25:22,239
aztec or inka writing or something that

2400
01:25:26,629 --> 01:25:23,440
would look like a

2401
01:25:27,830 --> 01:25:26,639
peruvian rug borders that's what she

2402
01:25:29,910 --> 01:25:27,840
said it looked like

2403
01:25:32,550 --> 01:25:29,920
so i went ahead and this is her original

2404
01:25:34,310 --> 01:25:32,560
sketch she did a great job

2405
01:25:36,310 --> 01:25:34,320
three-page report and an original

2406
01:25:38,950 --> 01:25:36,320
schedule all the call-offs i mean

2407
01:25:40,950 --> 01:25:38,960
this is exactly what you want to see

2408
01:25:43,270 --> 01:25:40,960
beautiful job on the drawing

2409
01:25:44,950 --> 01:25:43,280
of the socket area here but she

2410
01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:44,960
describes this whole thing

2411
01:25:48,790 --> 01:25:47,440
how it went down so i took her drawing

2412
01:25:50,390 --> 01:25:48,800
did the model of it

2413
01:25:51,830 --> 01:25:50,400
did an autocad rendering and then i

2414
01:25:53,590 --> 01:25:51,840
didn't enlargement on the right hand

2415
01:25:56,310 --> 01:25:53,600
side that you can see here so

2416
01:25:56,790 --> 01:25:56,320
resembled an ancient arabic language

2417
01:25:59,270 --> 01:25:56,800
also

2418
01:26:00,790 --> 01:25:59,280
looked like the border of a persian or

2419
01:26:03,430 --> 01:26:00,800
oriental rug

2420
01:26:05,350 --> 01:26:03,440
reference design seen on mine or incan

2421
01:26:06,870 --> 01:26:05,360
pottery that's what this thing looked

2422
01:26:09,910 --> 01:26:06,880
like

2423
01:26:12,149 --> 01:26:09,920
and if you look at the components of a

2424
01:26:13,990 --> 01:26:12,159
tesla coil

2425
01:26:15,669 --> 01:26:14,000
it looks similar pretty much like a

2426
01:26:18,390 --> 01:26:15,679
tesla coil

2427
01:26:20,149 --> 01:26:18,400
yeah you know do you know what michael

2428
01:26:22,470 --> 01:26:20,159
stratt i almost electrocuted myself

2429
01:26:23,510 --> 01:26:22,480
building one of those i'm not kidding

2430
01:26:26,550 --> 01:26:23,520
you i really did

2431
01:26:29,669 --> 01:26:26,560
i had no i i just did i

2432
01:26:32,870 --> 01:26:29,679
i was not a very safe person

2433
01:26:34,229 --> 01:26:32,880
okay very high voltage so you got to be

2434
01:26:35,750 --> 01:26:34,239
careful if you're going to build a tesla

2435
01:26:38,229 --> 01:26:35,760
coil just my okay

2436
01:26:39,669 --> 01:26:38,239
okay don't electrocute yourself no you

2437
01:26:42,950 --> 01:26:39,679
got to be careful

2438
01:26:45,510 --> 01:26:42,960
you know 30 000 volts here all right now

2439
01:26:47,830 --> 01:26:45,520
moving on january 1st this one is great

2440
01:26:51,350 --> 01:26:47,840
because it's got a cone head

2441
01:26:53,590 --> 01:26:51,360
you can't make this stuff all right so

2442
01:26:56,470 --> 01:26:53,600
the two skiers were going down a ski

2443
01:26:58,229 --> 01:26:56,480
hill and this cloud was following them

2444
01:27:00,070 --> 01:26:58,239
they eventually make it to this open

2445
01:27:03,110 --> 01:27:00,080
area and then

2446
01:27:04,149 --> 01:27:03,120
from this cloud emerges this kind of

2447
01:27:07,189 --> 01:27:04,159
like a a

2448
01:27:07,669 --> 01:27:07,199
flash and what they ended up seeing was

2449
01:27:09,510 --> 01:27:07,679
a disc

2450
01:27:12,149 --> 01:27:09,520
shaped craft with three domes on the

2451
01:27:15,030 --> 01:27:12,159
bottom and then

2452
01:27:15,750 --> 01:27:15,040
i i cannot make this up what can only be

2453
01:27:18,950 --> 01:27:15,760
described

2454
01:27:22,709 --> 01:27:18,960
stephen as a garden gnome okay

2455
01:27:24,790 --> 01:27:22,719
a garden gnome that had a kind of a

2456
01:27:26,950 --> 01:27:24,800
green tight fitting flight suit he was

2457
01:27:29,350 --> 01:27:26,960
wearing green boots

2458
01:27:30,870 --> 01:27:29,360
he had kind of a crinkly face with a

2459
01:27:34,229 --> 01:27:30,880
strange looking nose

2460
01:27:35,990 --> 01:27:34,239
he had a cone head for a top hat

2461
01:27:37,990 --> 01:27:36,000
and then he had what looked like a

2462
01:27:38,629 --> 01:27:38,000
optical device that looked like a camera

2463
01:27:41,030 --> 01:27:38,639
and he was

2464
01:27:42,950 --> 01:27:41,040
moving it from skier to skier like he

2465
01:27:44,870 --> 01:27:42,960
was taking photographs

2466
01:27:46,310 --> 01:27:44,880
can't make this up uh here's the

2467
01:27:46,950 --> 01:27:46,320
original sketch that comes with the

2468
01:27:49,110 --> 01:27:46,960
article

2469
01:27:50,870 --> 01:27:49,120
sources gray barker ufo collection

2470
01:27:51,750 --> 01:27:50,880
clarksburg west virginia that's where i

2471
01:27:56,310 --> 01:27:51,760
got this

2472
01:27:59,189 --> 01:27:56,320
report from and after about four minutes

2473
01:28:00,470 --> 01:27:59,199
there was a black uh bright flash the

2474
01:28:02,229 --> 01:28:00,480
beam disappeared

2475
01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:02,239
the craft disappeared and then

2476
01:28:08,310 --> 01:28:05,360
immediately both skiers

2477
01:28:10,310 --> 01:28:08,320
had these horrible sicknesses and one of

2478
01:28:12,149 --> 01:28:10,320
the skiers had to help the other

2479
01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:12,159
about an hour until they could get back

2480
01:28:17,830 --> 01:28:14,320
to the lodge where they were staying so

2481
01:28:19,990 --> 01:28:17,840
not only was it a ce1 or a ce2 this was

2482
01:28:23,430 --> 01:28:20,000
a ce3 so it encapsulated

2483
01:28:26,070 --> 01:28:23,440
all of the close encounter elements

2484
01:28:27,830 --> 01:28:26,080
interesting and you know what we i i've

2485
01:28:30,390 --> 01:28:27,840
heard various reports of

2486
01:28:31,590 --> 01:28:30,400
people getting sick or feeling sick or

2487
01:28:33,669 --> 01:28:31,600
nauseous

2488
01:28:34,790 --> 01:28:33,679
when they have some sort of encounter

2489
01:28:37,669 --> 01:28:34,800
with

2490
01:28:40,310 --> 01:28:37,679
uh i guess an alien or or whatever the

2491
01:28:41,990 --> 01:28:40,320
occupants or pilots of these craft

2492
01:28:44,790 --> 01:28:42,000
strange craft are have you heard a lot

2493
01:28:46,870 --> 01:28:44,800
of different stories that relate to that

2494
01:28:49,030 --> 01:28:46,880
yeah i do and you know you were talking

2495
01:28:50,629 --> 01:28:49,040
about vehicles being magnetized

2496
01:28:52,870 --> 01:28:50,639
that's one that we'll cover here if we

2497
01:28:54,790 --> 01:28:52,880
have time but yeah it's

2498
01:28:56,070 --> 01:28:54,800
it is common to have these close

2499
01:28:59,110 --> 01:28:56,080
encounter the second

2500
01:28:59,910 --> 01:28:59,120
kind effects because when you have a ce2

2501
01:29:02,149 --> 01:28:59,920
you're talking about

2502
01:29:03,510 --> 01:29:02,159
physical effects whether it's a car

2503
01:29:05,270 --> 01:29:03,520
engine stalling

2504
01:29:07,270 --> 01:29:05,280
people getting sick people getting

2505
01:29:10,870 --> 01:29:07,280
nauseated headaches

2506
01:29:12,870 --> 01:29:10,880
it's absolutely a ce2 case

2507
01:29:14,870 --> 01:29:12,880
do you have any insight into what you

2508
01:29:16,870 --> 01:29:14,880
think may be the cause of that

2509
01:29:18,629 --> 01:29:16,880
of of people getting sick around these

2510
01:29:20,070 --> 01:29:18,639
could be the frequencies that these

2511
01:29:24,149 --> 01:29:20,080
things are emitting

2512
01:29:26,310 --> 01:29:24,159
that's possible um don't know for sure

2513
01:29:28,070 --> 01:29:26,320
don't know for sure yeah i mean anything

2514
01:29:28,629 --> 01:29:28,080
we say would be speculation but i just

2515
01:29:30,550 --> 01:29:28,639
wondered

2516
01:29:32,870 --> 01:29:30,560
what what you thought because you know

2517
01:29:33,430 --> 01:29:32,880
sometimes informed speculation is pretty

2518
01:29:36,950 --> 01:29:33,440
good

2519
01:29:39,430 --> 01:29:36,960
you know because we've got uh

2520
01:29:41,590 --> 01:29:39,440
reports from edwards air force base with

2521
01:29:43,990 --> 01:29:41,600
the i think was the thunderscreech

2522
01:29:45,990 --> 01:29:44,000
which was uh allegedly the fastest

2523
01:29:48,709 --> 01:29:46,000
piston powered turboprop

2524
01:29:49,030 --> 01:29:48,719
aircraft in the world where even when it

2525
01:29:51,189 --> 01:29:49,040
was

2526
01:29:52,790 --> 01:29:51,199
taxing on the ground people could hear

2527
01:29:54,950 --> 01:29:52,800
it from five miles away

2528
01:29:56,870 --> 01:29:54,960
and that people that were close to it

2529
01:29:58,950 --> 01:29:56,880
because the propeller was

2530
01:30:00,709 --> 01:29:58,960
creating a shockwave and a sonic boom as

2531
01:30:03,270 --> 01:30:00,719
it was turning so fast

2532
01:30:06,709 --> 01:30:03,280
the resonant frequency was making people

2533
01:30:08,550 --> 01:30:06,719
sick that were near the craft

2534
01:30:10,390 --> 01:30:08,560
just the propeller alone was making

2535
01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:10,400
people sick yeah well you know i

2536
01:30:14,550 --> 01:30:12,400
i know a little bit about ultrasonics

2537
01:30:15,830 --> 01:30:14,560
and we're talking about these crazy

2538
01:30:18,310 --> 01:30:15,840
it's it's funny there's another

2539
01:30:19,110 --> 01:30:18,320
conspiracy theory that just became

2540
01:30:21,030 --> 01:30:19,120
reality

2541
01:30:23,030 --> 01:30:21,040
and that is energy weapons and i know a

2542
01:30:25,590 --> 01:30:23,040
little bit about ultrasonics

2543
01:30:27,510 --> 01:30:25,600
and with with the right uh with the

2544
01:30:29,430 --> 01:30:27,520
right electronic equipment

2545
01:30:31,030 --> 01:30:29,440
you you can make people sick you can

2546
01:30:32,310 --> 01:30:31,040
make people like feel like they're going

2547
01:30:35,350 --> 01:30:32,320
to have a bowel movement

2548
01:30:36,709 --> 01:30:35,360
with ultrasonics it's incredible yeah i

2549
01:30:40,550 --> 01:30:36,719
believe it

2550
01:30:43,750 --> 01:30:40,560
1983

2551
01:30:44,629 --> 01:30:43,760
mobile alabama 210 feet long by 18 feet

2552
01:30:46,550 --> 01:30:44,639
high

2553
01:30:48,550 --> 01:30:46,560
so the story behind this one this comes

2554
01:30:50,310 --> 01:30:48,560
from the pro bulletin want to give my

2555
01:30:51,669 --> 01:30:50,320
source so you can check it out as well

2556
01:30:53,990 --> 01:30:51,679
this is one of my favorites from the

2557
01:30:55,990 --> 01:30:54,000
book yeah because it's so unique

2558
01:30:57,350 --> 01:30:56,000
we see saucers all the time but this one

2559
01:31:00,709 --> 01:30:57,360
is truly unique

2560
01:31:02,070 --> 01:31:00,719
yep so the primary eye witness was

2561
01:31:04,950 --> 01:31:02,080
driving down the road

2562
01:31:05,669 --> 01:31:04,960
it was uh you know a little bit later at

2563
01:31:08,070 --> 01:31:05,679
night

2564
01:31:09,270 --> 01:31:08,080
this is mobile alabama and she hears

2565
01:31:12,870 --> 01:31:09,280
this boom

2566
01:31:14,709 --> 01:31:12,880
noise her car starts vibrating

2567
01:31:16,470 --> 01:31:14,719
so she pulls off to the side of the road

2568
01:31:19,030 --> 01:31:16,480
she opens up the car door

2569
01:31:20,070 --> 01:31:19,040
she leans under the vehicle to see if

2570
01:31:22,229 --> 01:31:20,080
the transmission

2571
01:31:23,990 --> 01:31:22,239
fell out but that seemed to be okay so

2572
01:31:25,750 --> 01:31:24,000
she got back in the car

2573
01:31:27,350 --> 01:31:25,760
she drove another half mile down the

2574
01:31:29,430 --> 01:31:27,360
road made kind of a

2575
01:31:31,270 --> 01:31:29,440
curve over to the left and then off to

2576
01:31:32,790 --> 01:31:31,280
the right there was this clearing area

2577
01:31:35,669 --> 01:31:32,800
that was completely lit

2578
01:31:36,229 --> 01:31:35,679
up so she looked a little bit further

2579
01:31:40,070 --> 01:31:36,239
and she

2580
01:31:41,189 --> 01:31:40,080
saw this massive you can't even describe

2581
01:31:44,550 --> 01:31:41,199
the shape of this thing

2582
01:31:46,470 --> 01:31:44,560
very odd looking craft as we mentioned

2583
01:31:49,189 --> 01:31:46,480
here 210 feet long

2584
01:31:51,270 --> 01:31:49,199
80 feet tall it had kind of this

2585
01:31:53,030 --> 01:31:51,280
inverted wedding cake as they're tapered

2586
01:31:54,550 --> 01:31:53,040
back toward the aft end of the craft now

2587
01:31:55,669 --> 01:31:54,560
we'll go ahead and start at the upper

2588
01:31:57,270 --> 01:31:55,679
section here

2589
01:31:59,750 --> 01:31:57,280
where there was this one third

2590
01:32:00,870 --> 01:31:59,760
transparent wraparound clear transparent

2591
01:32:03,510 --> 01:32:00,880
window

2592
01:32:05,110 --> 01:32:03,520
and she could see these humanoid looking

2593
01:32:07,110 --> 01:32:05,120
beings that were about five foot ten

2594
01:32:09,030 --> 01:32:07,120
they were wearing a white colored

2595
01:32:10,390 --> 01:32:09,040
one-piece tight-fitting flight suit so

2596
01:32:11,189 --> 01:32:10,400
that's the third time we've heard about

2597
01:32:12,470 --> 01:32:11,199
this

2598
01:32:14,870 --> 01:32:12,480
they were kind of like in an

2599
01:32:15,350 --> 01:32:14,880
anaesthetically sterile environment now

2600
01:32:17,350 --> 01:32:15,360
she was

2601
01:32:18,629 --> 01:32:17,360
that's interesting why don't aliens like

2602
01:32:20,629 --> 01:32:18,639
loose clothes because

2603
01:32:22,629 --> 01:32:20,639
every time i've heard an alien describe

2604
01:32:25,110 --> 01:32:22,639
it's always a tight-fitting

2605
01:32:25,990 --> 01:32:25,120
jumpsuit flight suit that's right yeah

2606
01:32:27,750 --> 01:32:26,000
you got that right

2607
01:32:29,350 --> 01:32:27,760
they must just like it's like those

2608
01:32:32,629 --> 01:32:29,360
dudes that like tight jeans

2609
01:32:34,550 --> 01:32:32,639
right you know who was who knows

2610
01:32:36,070 --> 01:32:34,560
now below that section there was another

2611
01:32:38,550 --> 01:32:36,080
transparent section below

2612
01:32:39,430 --> 01:32:38,560
that she could see the circular

2613
01:32:42,149 --> 01:32:39,440
transparent

2614
01:32:43,430 --> 01:32:42,159
portholes you could you could say below

2615
01:32:45,750 --> 01:32:43,440
that

2616
01:32:47,110 --> 01:32:45,760
she saw these six foot square by six

2617
01:32:49,990 --> 01:32:47,120
foot square

2618
01:32:50,709 --> 01:32:50,000
boxes with these you could call it a

2619
01:32:53,510 --> 01:32:50,719
shaft or

2620
01:32:53,990 --> 01:32:53,520
cylinder protruding out which i do not

2621
01:32:57,189 --> 01:32:54,000
think are

2622
01:32:58,790 --> 01:32:57,199
weapons these are not guns now below

2623
01:33:00,790 --> 01:32:58,800
that section she said that there was a

2624
01:33:02,709 --> 01:33:00,800
door closing from right to left

2625
01:33:05,030 --> 01:33:02,719
and she said that on the bottom of the

2626
01:33:05,990 --> 01:33:05,040
door there was a black colored asphalt

2627
01:33:09,110 --> 01:33:06,000
road that led

2628
01:33:10,310 --> 01:33:09,120
into the craft on the left-hand wall of

2629
01:33:13,910 --> 01:33:10,320
this craft

2630
01:33:16,310 --> 01:33:13,920
she said she could see what she turned

2631
01:33:18,149 --> 01:33:16,320
as tubes pipes and cylinders now it's

2632
01:33:19,110 --> 01:33:18,159
the same tubes pipes and cylinders that

2633
01:33:22,310 --> 01:33:19,120
we've heard of

2634
01:33:24,629 --> 01:33:22,320
so many times before uh the same

2635
01:33:27,430 --> 01:33:24,639
pipes that were on the belgium triangle

2636
01:33:28,229 --> 01:33:27,440
wave that's 1989 1990 the same pipes

2637
01:33:31,350 --> 01:33:28,239
that were seen

2638
01:33:33,350 --> 01:33:31,360
on the january 5th 2000 uh southern

2639
01:33:35,350 --> 01:33:33,360
illinois case so that has a

2640
01:33:37,189 --> 01:33:35,360
historical precedence as well when

2641
01:33:38,550 --> 01:33:37,199
you're saying pipes it's it's the bottom

2642
01:33:39,030 --> 01:33:38,560
of the craft that you're seeing some

2643
01:33:42,149 --> 01:33:39,040
sort of

2644
01:33:42,950 --> 01:33:42,159
machinery well if you if you look on the

2645
01:33:45,910 --> 01:33:42,960
left-hand

2646
01:33:47,350 --> 01:33:45,920
wall of that open door you can see pipes

2647
01:33:49,189 --> 01:33:47,360
and cylinders and

2648
01:33:51,750 --> 01:33:49,199
things that look a lot of these people

2649
01:33:52,310 --> 01:33:51,760
say that it looks like a midas muffler

2650
01:33:53,750 --> 01:33:52,320
plant

2651
01:33:55,590 --> 01:33:53,760
when you look at the inside of these

2652
01:33:56,870 --> 01:33:55,600
things yeah that's what it actually

2653
01:33:58,709 --> 01:33:56,880
looks like

2654
01:34:00,470 --> 01:33:58,719
now on the very bottom she said there

2655
01:34:03,590 --> 01:34:00,480
were two additional

2656
01:34:04,870 --> 01:34:03,600
transparent gondolas with these same 5

2657
01:34:06,550 --> 01:34:04,880
foot 10

2658
01:34:08,310 --> 01:34:06,560
you know tight-fitting flight suit

2659
01:34:11,510 --> 01:34:08,320
humanoid looking beings now

2660
01:34:13,910 --> 01:34:11,520
on the upper part of these gondolas she

2661
01:34:14,950 --> 01:34:13,920
said that she could see these 24 inch by

2662
01:34:18,149 --> 01:34:14,960
24 inch

2663
01:34:20,070 --> 01:34:18,159
highly polished reflective near

2664
01:34:21,590 --> 01:34:20,080
devices that were in the shape of a

2665
01:34:23,350 --> 01:34:21,600
cross now

2666
01:34:25,189 --> 01:34:23,360
standing below this craft was

2667
01:34:28,390 --> 01:34:25,199
awe-inspiring and she could look

2668
01:34:29,830 --> 01:34:28,400
through these portholes from one side

2669
01:34:32,229 --> 01:34:29,840
all the way through the craft to the

2670
01:34:32,550 --> 01:34:32,239
other side and she said steven that when

2671
01:34:39,590 --> 01:34:32,560
she

2672
01:34:40,629 --> 01:34:39,600
was termed as a cross beam and girder

2673
01:34:42,709 --> 01:34:40,639
construction with

2674
01:34:43,669 --> 01:34:42,719
bulkheads and stringers like a shipping

2675
01:34:45,669 --> 01:34:43,679
yard

2676
01:34:47,350 --> 01:34:45,679
this thing was like something that you

2677
01:34:49,590 --> 01:34:47,360
would see on the east coast when they're

2678
01:34:51,350 --> 01:34:49,600
laying the keel of a battleship with all

2679
01:34:52,870 --> 01:34:51,360
these bulkheads and stringers that's

2680
01:34:55,350 --> 01:34:52,880
exactly what it looked like

2681
01:34:58,070 --> 01:34:55,360
and she also said that this whole thing

2682
01:35:00,870 --> 01:34:58,080
looked like it was fastened by

2683
01:35:01,990 --> 01:35:00,880
rivets steven we've got rivets on this

2684
01:35:03,669 --> 01:35:02,000
craft

2685
01:35:05,350 --> 01:35:03,679
according to the primary eyewitness now

2686
01:35:05,990 --> 01:35:05,360
here's an enlargement of the front end

2687
01:35:07,750 --> 01:35:06,000
of it

2688
01:35:09,750 --> 01:35:07,760
and if you look at the left wall you can

2689
01:35:10,310 --> 01:35:09,760
see these pipes and cylinders and things

2690
01:35:13,669 --> 01:35:10,320
that look like

2691
01:35:16,709 --> 01:35:13,679
silencers maybe some type of a cooling

2692
01:35:17,350 --> 01:35:16,719
apparatus for a uh nuclear power plant

2693
01:35:19,270 --> 01:35:17,360
with

2694
01:35:21,830 --> 01:35:19,280
some type of a liquid nitrogen being

2695
01:35:22,390 --> 01:35:21,840
employed that's what she's describing

2696
01:35:23,990 --> 01:35:22,400
here

2697
01:35:26,070 --> 01:35:24,000
according to what the eyewitness has

2698
01:35:28,629 --> 01:35:26,080
stated

2699
01:35:30,229 --> 01:35:28,639
that's uh interesting looking craft and

2700
01:35:33,030 --> 01:35:30,239
a little more unique among

2701
01:35:34,229 --> 01:35:33,040
among ufo reports yes because of its

2702
01:35:37,109 --> 01:35:34,239
shape and its

2703
01:35:38,870 --> 01:35:37,119
size as well right this would be some

2704
01:35:40,229 --> 01:35:38,880
something more like a mother ship then

2705
01:35:40,629 --> 01:35:40,239
because of the size of it do you think

2706
01:35:43,510 --> 01:35:40,639
that

2707
01:35:44,470 --> 01:35:43,520
each of those light portholes is one

2708
01:35:46,550 --> 01:35:44,480
floor of this

2709
01:35:47,669 --> 01:35:46,560
of this big craft and it's got multiple

2710
01:35:49,270 --> 01:35:47,679
floors

2711
01:35:50,950 --> 01:35:49,280
it could have like three different

2712
01:35:53,590 --> 01:35:50,960
floors but

2713
01:35:55,430 --> 01:35:53,600
the fact that the door is opening is

2714
01:35:57,109 --> 01:35:55,440
interesting to me because that looks

2715
01:35:59,430 --> 01:35:57,119
like a hangar bay to me

2716
01:36:01,030 --> 01:35:59,440
so it looks like something can fly out

2717
01:36:04,470 --> 01:36:01,040
of that hangar bay

2718
01:36:06,390 --> 01:36:04,480
that's absolutely you know uh this is

2719
01:36:08,149 --> 01:36:06,400
the original sketch from the article

2720
01:36:10,149 --> 01:36:08,159
you can see the door opening you can see

2721
01:36:12,790 --> 01:36:10,159
the tubes pipes and cylinders

2722
01:36:14,629 --> 01:36:12,800
you can see the bottom gondola there but

2723
01:36:16,149 --> 01:36:14,639
this is what was reported and

2724
01:36:17,910 --> 01:36:16,159
the whole fact that this thing had

2725
01:36:20,310 --> 01:36:17,920
rivets on it that checks out too

2726
01:36:22,550 --> 01:36:20,320
because we've got 12 separate cases of

2727
01:36:24,470 --> 01:36:22,560
these rusty bridge rivets that are

2728
01:36:27,990 --> 01:36:24,480
holding these craft together

2729
01:36:29,430 --> 01:36:28,000
it just doesn't sound alien yeah i was

2730
01:36:30,870 --> 01:36:29,440
just going to say it i didn't know that

2731
01:36:33,189 --> 01:36:30,880
aliens would use rivets

2732
01:36:35,030 --> 01:36:33,199
right because a lot of ufo reports of

2733
01:36:36,310 --> 01:36:35,040
flying saucers are always like that

2734
01:36:39,990 --> 01:36:36,320
there's no

2735
01:36:42,790 --> 01:36:40,000
fasteners or rivets or or discernible

2736
01:36:43,910 --> 01:36:42,800
you know human technology on the skins

2737
01:36:46,310 --> 01:36:43,920
of the craft

2738
01:36:47,590 --> 01:36:46,320
this these but then there are reports of

2739
01:36:49,189 --> 01:36:47,600
craft like this that

2740
01:36:50,950 --> 01:36:49,199
they definitely have rivets so maybe

2741
01:36:52,470 --> 01:36:50,960
this would indicate this is some

2742
01:36:54,390 --> 01:36:52,480
man-made thing

2743
01:36:56,070 --> 01:36:54,400
i think that this bear some resemblance

2744
01:36:58,070 --> 01:36:56,080
to some stealth blimps that i've seen

2745
01:37:00,070 --> 01:36:58,080
but it's much more ornate

2746
01:37:01,510 --> 01:37:00,080
you know yeah it looks more advanced or

2747
01:37:03,590 --> 01:37:01,520
more uh

2748
01:37:05,750 --> 01:37:03,600
i don't know well put together with all

2749
01:37:09,270 --> 01:37:05,760
these portholes and things like that

2750
01:37:10,310 --> 01:37:09,280
that's right that's right okay so uss

2751
01:37:13,350 --> 01:37:10,320
fdr

2752
01:37:14,629 --> 01:37:13,360
november 1958 guantanamo bay cuba now we

2753
01:37:17,350 --> 01:37:14,639
should mention

2754
01:37:18,950 --> 01:37:17,360
that this is not the first time that i

2755
01:37:19,669 --> 01:37:18,960
was gonna say that yeah they've had

2756
01:37:27,350 --> 01:37:19,679
multiple

2757
01:37:29,430 --> 01:37:27,360
sightings and reports

2758
01:37:30,870 --> 01:37:29,440
absolutely and it was the first aircraft

2759
01:37:33,109 --> 01:37:30,880
carrier to have

2760
01:37:34,790 --> 01:37:33,119
nuclear weapons power right oh nuclear

2761
01:37:36,070 --> 01:37:34,800
weapons on board nuclear weapons on

2762
01:37:38,550 --> 01:37:36,080
board yep

2763
01:37:39,669 --> 01:37:38,560
so that might be one of the reasons why

2764
01:37:42,470 --> 01:37:39,679
it had this

2765
01:37:43,430 --> 01:37:42,480
historical precedence for these ufo

2766
01:37:45,750 --> 01:37:43,440
encounters

2767
01:37:46,709 --> 01:37:45,760
all right so here's the scene it's

2768
01:37:50,229 --> 01:37:46,719
around 9 p.m

2769
01:37:52,229 --> 01:37:50,239
at night and there's chaos below decks

2770
01:37:53,350 --> 01:37:52,239
all these naval personnel are running up

2771
01:37:56,070 --> 01:37:53,360
to get to the flight deck

2772
01:37:57,750 --> 01:37:56,080
something's going on i mean chaos and

2773
01:37:59,030 --> 01:37:57,760
screaming and yelling and people trying

2774
01:38:00,950 --> 01:37:59,040
to climb ladders to get

2775
01:38:02,390 --> 01:38:00,960
they have got to get to the flight deck

2776
01:38:05,189 --> 01:38:02,400
immediately

2777
01:38:07,030 --> 01:38:05,199
so what are they seeing here well here

2778
01:38:08,149 --> 01:38:07,040
is the original sketch from chester

2779
01:38:10,629 --> 01:38:08,159
grozinski

2780
01:38:11,750 --> 01:38:10,639
he was one of the personnel on board the

2781
01:38:14,629 --> 01:38:11,760
ship who actually

2782
01:38:15,030 --> 01:38:14,639
experienced this and what they saw was

2783
01:38:17,109 --> 01:38:15,040
this

2784
01:38:19,590 --> 01:38:17,119
yellow light approaching the aircraft

2785
01:38:22,470 --> 01:38:19,600
carrier as it got closer

2786
01:38:23,830 --> 01:38:22,480
and this is late 1958 guantanamo bay

2787
01:38:25,990 --> 01:38:23,840
cuba area

2788
01:38:29,189 --> 01:38:26,000
uh it wasn't just this yellow light it

2789
01:38:31,910 --> 01:38:29,199
was this 200 foot long cigar shaped crap

2790
01:38:33,350 --> 01:38:31,920
that had these square cut out windows

2791
01:38:36,870 --> 01:38:33,360
and there were 24

2792
01:38:38,950 --> 01:38:36,880
naval personnel on the flight deck here

2793
01:38:41,109 --> 01:38:38,960
that could see these humanoid-looking

2794
01:38:41,990 --> 01:38:41,119
beings walking back and forth between

2795
01:38:43,830 --> 01:38:42,000
these windows

2796
01:38:46,390 --> 01:38:43,840
even that's what they described now they

2797
01:38:49,109 --> 01:38:46,400
also said very freaky

2798
01:38:51,109 --> 01:38:49,119
you can see these lines coming off the

2799
01:38:52,709 --> 01:38:51,119
cigar shaped craft those are heat waves

2800
01:38:55,750 --> 01:38:52,719
and they could feel the heat

2801
01:38:56,310 --> 01:38:55,760
off this craft onto their skin so right

2802
01:38:59,669 --> 01:38:56,320
now

2803
01:39:01,270 --> 01:38:59,679
it is a ce2 it's a ce3 case just by

2804
01:39:03,910 --> 01:39:01,280
definition of this alone

2805
01:39:05,910 --> 01:39:03,920
now we went ahead and did a rendering

2806
01:39:07,510 --> 01:39:05,920
and this is the enlargement and you

2807
01:39:08,390 --> 01:39:07,520
could see that one of these beings that

2808
01:39:10,070 --> 01:39:08,400
was looking

2809
01:39:12,709 --> 01:39:10,080
through this window of the cigar shaped

2810
01:39:13,350 --> 01:39:12,719
craft he raised his hand above his head

2811
01:39:15,189 --> 01:39:13,360
like he was

2812
01:39:18,310 --> 01:39:15,199
waving to the personnel back on the

2813
01:39:21,430 --> 01:39:18,320
flight deck of the aircraft carrier

2814
01:39:23,350 --> 01:39:21,440
so that's what i spoke to this gentleman

2815
01:39:25,270 --> 01:39:23,360
uh that's what he said so this is his

2816
01:39:26,629 --> 01:39:25,280
original sketch so we went ahead and did

2817
01:39:28,470 --> 01:39:26,639
a full color rendering

2818
01:39:31,030 --> 01:39:28,480
and we got to here that's the full color

2819
01:39:32,470 --> 01:39:31,040
rendering of what this craft

2820
01:39:34,310 --> 01:39:32,480
perhaps might have looked like and if

2821
01:39:37,990 --> 01:39:34,320
you look in the window here you can see

2822
01:39:39,990 --> 01:39:38,000
this being waving back to the

2823
01:39:41,590 --> 01:39:40,000
flight tech personnel below the craft

2824
01:39:42,870 --> 01:39:41,600
now we want to take you a little bit

2825
01:39:45,270 --> 01:39:42,880
closer here

2826
01:39:46,629 --> 01:39:45,280
so we'll zoom in and now you have an

2827
01:39:49,270 --> 01:39:46,639
enlargement of what

2828
01:39:50,310 --> 01:39:49,280
uh may actually have happened and

2829
01:39:54,870 --> 01:39:50,320
believe it or not

2830
01:39:58,470 --> 01:39:54,880
have read multiple reports

2831
01:40:00,310 --> 01:39:58,480
of beings in craft waving at people

2832
01:40:02,629 --> 01:40:00,320
which is kind of crazy if you think

2833
01:40:05,669 --> 01:40:02,639
about it right

2834
01:40:07,350 --> 01:40:05,679
yes maybe they're friendly right and

2835
01:40:09,109 --> 01:40:07,360
this this case is interesting to me

2836
01:40:10,470 --> 01:40:09,119
because it does bear some resemblance

2837
01:40:13,830 --> 01:40:10,480
though it's much larger

2838
01:40:15,910 --> 01:40:13,840
than the tic tac you know that people

2839
01:40:17,669 --> 01:40:15,920
are seeing in these navy footage maybe

2840
01:40:18,870 --> 01:40:17,679
it's just a larger version of the same

2841
01:40:20,830 --> 01:40:18,880
technology

2842
01:40:22,470 --> 01:40:20,840
that's very possible that's very

2843
01:40:25,990 --> 01:40:22,480
possible

2844
01:40:28,470 --> 01:40:26,000
but you know 25 eyewitnesses uh that

2845
01:40:30,950 --> 01:40:28,480
lends more credibility now let's move on

2846
01:40:34,709 --> 01:40:30,960
may 26 1979

2847
01:40:37,350 --> 01:40:34,719
colusa california the primary eyewitness

2848
01:40:37,990 --> 01:40:37,360
was in the house it was 11 30 pm at

2849
01:40:42,149 --> 01:40:38,000
night

2850
01:40:45,270 --> 01:40:42,159
a sudden stephen

2851
01:40:47,750 --> 01:40:45,280
the tv conks out

2852
01:40:48,790 --> 01:40:47,760
concurrently when the television shut

2853
01:40:51,430 --> 01:40:48,800
off

2854
01:40:53,270 --> 01:40:51,440
the air conditioning conked out as well

2855
01:40:55,990 --> 01:40:53,280
two things going on at the same time he

2856
01:40:58,070 --> 01:40:56,000
gets off the couch he was still in his

2857
01:40:59,590 --> 01:40:58,080
shorts at the time

2858
01:41:01,510 --> 01:40:59,600
he went over to the back of the house

2859
01:41:02,870 --> 01:41:01,520
where the circuit breaker is and there

2860
01:41:04,790 --> 01:41:02,880
was nothing wrong with the circuit

2861
01:41:08,229 --> 01:41:04,800
breaker so that seemed okay but he

2862
01:41:10,390 --> 01:41:08,239
immediately noticed that the hair on his

2863
01:41:11,669 --> 01:41:10,400
arms and the hair on his chest and the

2864
01:41:14,550 --> 01:41:11,679
hair on his head

2865
01:41:16,070 --> 01:41:14,560
not only stood straight up but started

2866
01:41:18,229 --> 01:41:16,080
crackling too

2867
01:41:20,709 --> 01:41:18,239
when he looked up stephen he saw this

2868
01:41:23,189 --> 01:41:20,719
140 foot diameter disc shaped craft and

2869
01:41:26,229 --> 01:41:23,199
we'll go to the top here

2870
01:41:27,030 --> 01:41:26,239
the top dome looked like a lemon

2871
01:41:29,270 --> 01:41:27,040
squeezer

2872
01:41:30,629 --> 01:41:29,280
a lemon juicer with these ribs on it

2873
01:41:31,669 --> 01:41:30,639
that's what that looked like now on the

2874
01:41:33,750 --> 01:41:31,679
bottom of it

2875
01:41:35,750 --> 01:41:33,760
it had these conduit pipes that were

2876
01:41:37,510 --> 01:41:35,760
tapered back to these straight edges

2877
01:41:39,109 --> 01:41:37,520
so there were three on either side for a

2878
01:41:41,109 --> 01:41:39,119
total of six

2879
01:41:43,030 --> 01:41:41,119
on each side of this craft there were

2880
01:41:44,550 --> 01:41:43,040
these two pronged devices that were

2881
01:41:46,950 --> 01:41:44,560
coming down

2882
01:41:48,070 --> 01:41:46,960
and then when he looked off to the left

2883
01:41:51,189 --> 01:41:48,080
he could see

2884
01:41:53,350 --> 01:41:51,199
a very similar shaped craft identical to

2885
01:41:55,990 --> 01:41:53,360
this one but half the size

2886
01:41:57,990 --> 01:41:56,000
and it was pulling power up off the 500

2887
01:41:58,390 --> 01:41:58,000
000 volt power lines causing them to

2888
01:42:00,709 --> 01:41:58,400
become

2889
01:42:01,669 --> 01:42:00,719
cherry red so that's a ce2 case right

2890
01:42:03,990 --> 01:42:01,679
there

2891
01:42:06,550 --> 01:42:04,000
at this point these conduit pipes

2892
01:42:09,030 --> 01:42:06,560
retracted into the bottom of the craft

2893
01:42:11,270 --> 01:42:09,040
the second that happened the prongs

2894
01:42:12,070 --> 01:42:11,280
retracted 90 percent of the way into the

2895
01:42:13,669 --> 01:42:12,080
craft

2896
01:42:16,550 --> 01:42:13,679
and then there was a door that popped

2897
01:42:18,950 --> 01:42:16,560
open on the right and left hand side

2898
01:42:20,470 --> 01:42:18,960
and this gooseneck light popped out

2899
01:42:23,430 --> 01:42:20,480
shining a light down

2900
01:42:25,030 --> 01:42:23,440
to the barn and the house directly below

2901
01:42:26,790 --> 01:42:25,040
so that's kind of like the first scene

2902
01:42:28,310 --> 01:42:26,800
at this point

2903
01:42:29,910 --> 01:42:28,320
this is what the craft look like that's

2904
01:42:30,629 --> 01:42:29,920
the technical engineering drawing you

2905
01:42:32,550 --> 01:42:30,639
can see the

2906
01:42:34,310 --> 01:42:32,560
rib section of the dome looks just like

2907
01:42:34,629 --> 01:42:34,320
a juice squeezer you can't make this

2908
01:42:37,669 --> 01:42:34,639
stuff

2909
01:42:39,350 --> 01:42:37,679
up yeah that really does i have a lemon

2910
01:42:40,470 --> 01:42:39,360
squeezer here at the cabin believe it or

2911
01:42:41,910 --> 01:42:40,480
not so uh

2912
01:42:43,990 --> 01:42:41,920
because we don't have a lot of power

2913
01:42:44,870 --> 01:42:44,000
things here you know everything we have

2914
01:42:47,350 --> 01:42:44,880
is like

2915
01:42:48,870 --> 01:42:47,360
hand yeah that's exactly looks like a

2916
01:42:52,470 --> 01:42:48,880
lemon squeezer to me that's

2917
01:42:55,510 --> 01:42:52,480
interesting or orange juicer you know

2918
01:42:56,070 --> 01:42:55,520
orange juicer so what he ends up doing

2919
01:42:58,790 --> 01:42:56,080
is he

2920
01:43:00,950 --> 01:42:58,800
goes to the interior bedroom he wakes up

2921
01:43:02,229 --> 01:43:00,960
his wife he wakes up his two kids they

2922
01:43:05,590 --> 01:43:02,239
go to the back room

2923
01:43:06,870 --> 01:43:05,600
they pull a blind back and they can see

2924
01:43:09,030 --> 01:43:06,880
that large craft

2925
01:43:10,310 --> 01:43:09,040
flanked on either side by the two

2926
01:43:12,870 --> 01:43:10,320
smaller craft

2927
01:43:14,390 --> 01:43:12,880
and they are pulling power off the 500

2928
01:43:16,950 --> 01:43:14,400
000 volt power line so

2929
01:43:19,669 --> 01:43:16,960
no doubt about it it's a ce2 case now

2930
01:43:21,189 --> 01:43:19,679
according to the 12 page report on this

2931
01:43:24,070 --> 01:43:21,199
case

2932
01:43:25,910 --> 01:43:24,080
the large craft in the center went from

2933
01:43:28,550 --> 01:43:25,920
a dead standstill

2934
01:43:29,109 --> 01:43:28,560
to approximately 27 nautical miles away

2935
01:43:30,950 --> 01:43:29,119
to the

2936
01:43:32,470 --> 01:43:30,960
rolling hills in the background of the

2937
01:43:35,189 --> 01:43:32,480
scene and then back again

2938
01:43:36,870 --> 01:43:35,199
in less than two seconds stephen with no

2939
01:43:38,709 --> 01:43:36,880
sonic boom

2940
01:43:41,189 --> 01:43:38,719
yeah that's very very interesting i

2941
01:43:43,189 --> 01:43:41,199
don't want the technology to do this

2942
01:43:44,870 --> 01:43:43,199
v is asking a good question because i

2943
01:43:47,030 --> 01:43:44,880
i'm not sure uh

2944
01:43:48,149 --> 01:43:47,040
didn't this one have multiple sightings

2945
01:43:51,350 --> 01:43:48,159
across miles

2946
01:43:54,070 --> 01:43:51,360
this case it very well could be very

2947
01:43:55,350 --> 01:43:54,080
well could be i mean that's certainly a

2948
01:43:58,709 --> 01:43:55,360
possibility

2949
01:44:00,709 --> 01:43:58,719
uh at this point the father said you

2950
01:44:02,149 --> 01:44:00,719
know what we're out of here so what he

2951
01:44:04,229 --> 01:44:02,159
ended up doing is

2952
01:44:05,750 --> 01:44:04,239
is he packed up his entire family he

2953
01:44:06,149 --> 01:44:05,760
loaded them into the pickup truck and

2954
01:44:08,470 --> 01:44:06,159
they go

2955
01:44:10,870 --> 01:44:08,480
90 miles an hour down the road they're

2956
01:44:13,830 --> 01:44:10,880
still in their pajamas at this point

2957
01:44:14,310 --> 01:44:13,840
the large craft that was pulling power

2958
01:44:19,189 --> 01:44:14,320
that

2959
01:44:21,430 --> 01:44:19,199
chasing them it goes over the cab of the

2960
01:44:23,430 --> 01:44:21,440
pickup truck over to the left-hand side

2961
01:44:25,030 --> 01:44:23,440
then back over to the main cab and then

2962
01:44:26,950 --> 01:44:25,040
over to the right-hand side

2963
01:44:31,750 --> 01:44:26,960
this is all going 90 miles an hour this

2964
01:44:36,870 --> 01:44:34,790
just just for the benefit of the la of

2965
01:44:38,070 --> 01:44:36,880
everybody watching live or listening to

2966
01:44:40,470 --> 01:44:38,080
the replay you know

2967
01:44:41,270 --> 01:44:40,480
michael's got sources for all this which

2968
01:44:43,510 --> 01:44:41,280
is why

2969
01:44:45,270 --> 01:44:43,520
uh you know michael's work is so much

2970
01:44:47,669 --> 01:44:45,280
more valuable than the fairy tale

2971
01:44:48,470 --> 01:44:47,679
huckster ufo people who just make stuff

2972
01:44:50,790 --> 01:44:48,480
up or

2973
01:44:52,310 --> 01:44:50,800
have terrible sourcing michael gives you

2974
01:44:53,830 --> 01:44:52,320
all the sourcing so if you want to learn

2975
01:44:56,790 --> 01:44:53,840
more about each case you can

2976
01:44:57,830 --> 01:44:56,800
and then it's just it's like this book

2977
01:45:02,790 --> 01:44:57,840
is like

2978
01:45:03,590 --> 01:45:02,800
different rabbit holes that you can go

2979
01:45:06,790 --> 01:45:03,600
to

2980
01:45:07,189 --> 01:45:06,800
it really is so you know i didn't know

2981
01:45:08,950 --> 01:45:07,199
if i

2982
01:45:10,629 --> 01:45:08,960
you know i love this book so much and i

2983
01:45:13,669 --> 01:45:10,639
did start reading

2984
01:45:15,270 --> 01:45:13,679
about each individual case more in some

2985
01:45:16,870 --> 01:45:15,280
of the cases so far

2986
01:45:18,390 --> 01:45:16,880
so i don't know whether to thank you for

2987
01:45:21,030 --> 01:45:18,400
such an amazing book or punch

2988
01:45:21,990 --> 01:45:21,040
in the face because i've been going down

2989
01:45:25,189 --> 01:45:22,000
some

2990
01:45:28,310 --> 01:45:25,199
with or at least i was

2991
01:45:30,709 --> 01:45:28,320
only you know vaguely familiar with them

2992
01:45:32,629 --> 01:45:30,719
but i was reminded and inspired by the

2993
01:45:33,590 --> 01:45:32,639
drawings like wow this is a cool case

2994
01:45:35,270 --> 01:45:33,600
let's read more

2995
01:45:36,629 --> 01:45:35,280
and you give us all the sourcing so we

2996
01:45:38,390 --> 01:45:36,639
can do that

2997
01:45:39,830 --> 01:45:38,400
yep want to document the source so you

2998
01:45:40,790 --> 01:45:39,840
can check it out and verify it on your

2999
01:45:43,669 --> 01:45:40,800
own so

3000
01:45:44,790 --> 01:45:43,679
at this point they pull up to the

3001
01:45:47,109 --> 01:45:44,800
neighbor's house

3002
01:45:47,990 --> 01:45:47,119
they screech to a halt they get out of

3003
01:45:50,470 --> 01:45:48,000
the car

3004
01:45:51,669 --> 01:45:50,480
they slam on the door of the eye with

3005
01:45:53,830 --> 01:45:51,679
the neighbors

3006
01:45:55,750 --> 01:45:53,840
and the two neighbors come out so you

3007
01:45:58,390 --> 01:45:55,760
have the original four witnesses

3008
01:45:59,030 --> 01:45:58,400
plus the two so six people saw the end

3009
01:46:02,070 --> 01:45:59,040
part

3010
01:46:04,390 --> 01:46:02,080
of the large craft disappear and

3011
01:46:06,149 --> 01:46:04,400
that was in a nutshell the coluzza

3012
01:46:07,669 --> 01:46:06,159
california case but there this is a

3013
01:46:10,790 --> 01:46:07,679
multiple eyewitness case

3014
01:46:12,390 --> 01:46:10,800
and it had ce2 effects so yeah

3015
01:46:14,310 --> 01:46:12,400
very interesting it's interesting to me

3016
01:46:15,910 --> 01:46:14,320
that they seemed in this case they seem

3017
01:46:17,910 --> 01:46:15,920
to be siphoning

3018
01:46:19,030 --> 01:46:17,920
electricity out of the high voltage

3019
01:46:22,149 --> 01:46:19,040
power lines that's right

3020
01:46:24,070 --> 01:46:22,159
right that's right yeah we see various

3021
01:46:24,870 --> 01:46:24,080
examples of things like that i've heard

3022
01:46:27,669 --> 01:46:24,880
of cases

3023
01:46:28,470 --> 01:46:27,679
where ufos hovered over water and they

3024
01:46:31,830 --> 01:46:28,480
are like

3025
01:46:33,669 --> 01:46:31,840
taking water from the ocean or

3026
01:46:36,149 --> 01:46:33,679
were i think i'm pretty sure that i've

3027
01:46:38,390 --> 01:46:36,159
heard other cases where they were taking

3028
01:46:39,590 --> 01:46:38,400
power from power lines which is kind of

3029
01:46:42,629 --> 01:46:39,600
bizarre

3030
01:46:44,149 --> 01:46:42,639
but interesting yep so

3031
01:46:46,070 --> 01:46:44,159
it's something that we've heard in on

3032
01:46:50,229 --> 01:46:46,080
multiple different cases

3033
01:46:52,149 --> 01:46:50,239
uh stigler oklahoma 1961.

3034
01:46:53,430 --> 01:46:52,159
two women are driving down this road it

3035
01:46:56,550 --> 01:46:53,440
was kind of deserted

3036
01:46:58,070 --> 01:46:56,560
all of a sudden they see this white

3037
01:47:00,790 --> 01:46:58,080
light approaching their vehicle

3038
01:47:03,030 --> 01:47:00,800
this was no white light this was a

3039
01:47:03,350 --> 01:47:03,040
circular shaped disc shaped crack that

3040
01:47:05,910 --> 01:47:03,360
had

3041
01:47:06,550 --> 01:47:05,920
a kind of an inverted dome that was lit

3042
01:47:10,229 --> 01:47:06,560
up

3043
01:47:12,790 --> 01:47:10,239
and then stephen the report states that

3044
01:47:14,310 --> 01:47:12,800
it lifted the car about 16 inches off

3045
01:47:17,590 --> 01:47:14,320
the ground

3046
01:47:19,430 --> 01:47:17,600
and it started making the speedometer go

3047
01:47:21,189 --> 01:47:19,440
110 miles an hour but the car wasn't

3048
01:47:24,229 --> 01:47:21,199
moving whatsoever

3049
01:47:24,950 --> 01:47:24,239
so this is another ce2 case absolutely

3050
01:47:27,270 --> 01:47:24,960
because it had

3051
01:47:29,270 --> 01:47:27,280
physical effects and it also affected

3052
01:47:32,629 --> 01:47:29,280
the power line nearby as well

3053
01:47:34,790 --> 01:47:32,639
back in 1961 so

3054
01:47:36,149 --> 01:47:34,800
if it's true that they were researching

3055
01:47:38,709 --> 01:47:36,159
in 55 they would have had

3056
01:47:40,629 --> 01:47:38,719
six years to perfect a prototype

3057
01:47:44,070 --> 01:47:40,639
technology

3058
01:47:45,830 --> 01:47:44,080
interesting yeah here's the actual

3059
01:47:47,510 --> 01:47:45,840
newspaper clipping article that talks

3060
01:47:49,750 --> 01:47:47,520
about it within this report here

3061
01:47:50,550 --> 01:47:49,760
so we've got where can i ask where do

3062
01:47:53,910 --> 01:47:50,560
you get these

3063
01:47:55,750 --> 01:47:53,920
ancient newspaper articles um

3064
01:47:57,270 --> 01:47:55,760
because some of them are not digitized

3065
01:47:59,030 --> 01:47:57,280
you got to go into those

3066
01:48:00,310 --> 01:47:59,040
those old machines what are those old

3067
01:48:01,350 --> 01:48:00,320
machines called they had them at the

3068
01:48:04,310 --> 01:48:01,360
philadelphia

3069
01:48:06,310 --> 01:48:04,320
the microfiche machines microfilm

3070
01:48:08,470 --> 01:48:06,320
machines yeah you could go through

3071
01:48:10,149 --> 01:48:08,480
microfilm machines for for newspapers

3072
01:48:12,310 --> 01:48:10,159
back to the 1800s

3073
01:48:14,229 --> 01:48:12,320
at the philadelphia green branch library

3074
01:48:15,750 --> 01:48:14,239
and i used to go do that looking for ufo

3075
01:48:19,910 --> 01:48:15,760
stuff

3076
01:48:21,270 --> 01:48:19,920
you can pull it yep that's one way you

3077
01:48:24,229 --> 01:48:21,280
can get it

3078
01:48:24,950 --> 01:48:24,239
uh really briefly we'll go over jaylen

3079
01:48:26,950 --> 01:48:24,960
heineck's

3080
01:48:28,709 --> 01:48:26,960
classifications here close encounter

3081
01:48:30,790 --> 01:48:28,719
classification so

3082
01:48:33,270 --> 01:48:30,800
close encounter of the first kind is a

3083
01:48:35,350 --> 01:48:33,280
visual sighting lights in the sky

3084
01:48:36,470 --> 01:48:35,360
close encounter of the second kind is

3085
01:48:38,950 --> 01:48:36,480
physical effects

3086
01:48:40,149 --> 01:48:38,960
landing trace marks broken branches car

3087
01:48:41,830 --> 01:48:40,159
engine stalling

3088
01:48:43,669 --> 01:48:41,840
close encounters the third time that's

3089
01:48:45,430 --> 01:48:43,679
when you meet them okay

3090
01:48:46,870 --> 01:48:45,440
so that's what we've got for the

3091
01:48:47,669 --> 01:48:46,880
different classifications so we've

3092
01:48:51,270 --> 01:48:47,679
already covered

3093
01:48:52,950 --> 01:48:51,280
ce2s and ce3s the ce1s are

3094
01:48:55,030 --> 01:48:52,960
already a done deal so you've already

3095
01:48:57,030 --> 01:48:55,040
got those now

3096
01:48:58,870 --> 01:48:57,040
here's one well i could stop to ask you

3097
01:49:01,590 --> 01:48:58,880
what you think of this

3098
01:49:04,709 --> 01:49:01,600
you know ce5 and you know people have

3099
01:49:07,189 --> 01:49:04,719
invented ce4 and ce5

3100
01:49:07,830 --> 01:49:07,199
do you think that there's there's valid

3101
01:49:10,870 --> 01:49:07,840
reason

3102
01:49:13,750 --> 01:49:10,880
to add on to the original well you know

3103
01:49:14,229 --> 01:49:13,760
it's it's a good point but i prefer to

3104
01:49:16,470 --> 01:49:14,239
stick

3105
01:49:17,669 --> 01:49:16,480
to as close to the nuts and bolts that i

3106
01:49:25,589 --> 01:49:17,679
can

3107
01:49:28,629 --> 01:49:27,830
michael is very diplomatic too and he's

3108
01:49:33,189 --> 01:49:28,639
too kind

3109
01:49:35,189 --> 01:49:33,199
want to tell you that you can't buy an

3110
01:49:36,390 --> 01:49:35,199
app for ten dollars and talk to aliens

3111
01:49:38,629 --> 01:49:36,400
so i'll say it

3112
01:49:40,830 --> 01:49:38,639
and michael can have his nice diplomatic

3113
01:49:44,470 --> 01:49:40,840
you know that's good

3114
01:49:46,470 --> 01:49:44,480
okay all right so on this case

3115
01:49:48,470 --> 01:49:46,480
this was an example of one that was

3116
01:49:50,229 --> 01:49:48,480
pulled from the kufos archives i

3117
01:49:52,870 --> 01:49:50,239
i don't think it was ever published it

3118
01:49:55,030 --> 01:49:52,880
was never seen and as soon as i saw the

3119
01:49:57,430 --> 01:49:55,040
gentleman's original sketch i said oh we

3120
01:50:02,310 --> 01:49:57,440
got to do this one

3121
01:50:05,350 --> 01:50:02,320
there so it's december 26 1972 venezuela

3122
01:50:07,270 --> 01:50:05,360
and uh the primary eye witnesses was the

3123
01:50:10,470 --> 01:50:07,280
father

3124
01:50:12,070 --> 01:50:10,480
the wife and their young daughter

3125
01:50:13,990 --> 01:50:12,080
they're on the top of their 14th floor

3126
01:50:15,589 --> 01:50:14,000
apartment complex and they're looking

3127
01:50:18,229 --> 01:50:15,599
off to the right

3128
01:50:19,109 --> 01:50:18,239
when they usually could anticipate this

3129
01:50:20,550 --> 01:50:19,119
airliner

3130
01:50:23,830 --> 01:50:20,560
coming in for a landing at the local

3131
01:50:24,550 --> 01:50:23,840
airport so they look off to the right

3132
01:50:27,589 --> 01:50:24,560
and

3133
01:50:29,030 --> 01:50:27,599
they're seeing this orange glow

3134
01:50:30,950 --> 01:50:29,040
and they're thinking oh boy what's going

3135
01:50:31,750 --> 01:50:30,960
on here is this like an engine that fell

3136
01:50:32,950 --> 01:50:31,760
on fire

3137
01:50:35,270 --> 01:50:32,960
the guy actually thought that the

3138
01:50:37,189 --> 01:50:35,280
airliner was on fire and he was making

3139
01:50:40,390 --> 01:50:37,199
some kind of an emergency landing

3140
01:50:41,430 --> 01:50:40,400
well as this craft got closer this was

3141
01:50:44,229 --> 01:50:41,440
no

3142
01:50:45,750 --> 01:50:44,239
aircraft on fire this was an elliptical

3143
01:50:48,790 --> 01:50:45,760
shaped craft

3144
01:50:51,750 --> 01:50:48,800
that had a very strange

3145
01:50:52,550 --> 01:50:51,760
you could call it a dual inverted globe

3146
01:50:54,950 --> 01:50:52,560
section

3147
01:50:56,790 --> 01:50:54,960
with a continuous spark gap going in

3148
01:51:00,070 --> 01:50:56,800
between these electrodes

3149
01:51:02,709 --> 01:51:00,080
now on the on the back one third

3150
01:51:03,910 --> 01:51:02,719
of both the left right and rear of this

3151
01:51:06,149 --> 01:51:03,920
craft

3152
01:51:07,510 --> 01:51:06,159
were these quote unquote cast iron

3153
01:51:10,470 --> 01:51:07,520
exhaust ports

3154
01:51:12,629 --> 01:51:10,480
that had these violet colored lasagna

3155
01:51:14,149 --> 01:51:12,639
noodle flames coming out of them stephen

3156
01:51:14,870 --> 01:51:14,159
that's the best way to describe this

3157
01:51:16,550 --> 01:51:14,880
thing

3158
01:51:18,149 --> 01:51:16,560
there's really no other way to describe

3159
01:51:18,950 --> 01:51:18,159
it they were like violet colored they

3160
01:51:21,109 --> 01:51:18,960
were not

3161
01:51:22,790 --> 01:51:21,119
flames but he said that they were like

3162
01:51:24,550 --> 01:51:22,800
an electrical discharge

3163
01:51:26,229 --> 01:51:24,560
so here's the technical engineering

3164
01:51:27,830 --> 01:51:26,239
drawing i came up with that shows you

3165
01:51:29,750 --> 01:51:27,840
what the craft looked like

3166
01:51:31,510 --> 01:51:29,760
you can see the direction of flight

3167
01:51:33,589 --> 01:51:31,520
here's this electrical arc

3168
01:51:34,870 --> 01:51:33,599
detail with these half hemispherical

3169
01:51:37,589 --> 01:51:34,880
domes

3170
01:51:39,510 --> 01:51:37,599
and then on these cut center bottom i've

3171
01:51:40,149 --> 01:51:39,520
got the exhaust port detail that look

3172
01:51:43,669 --> 01:51:40,159
like these

3173
01:51:45,589 --> 01:51:43,679
twin you could say them twin

3174
01:51:47,510 --> 01:51:45,599
cast iron exhaust ports and then the

3175
01:51:49,510 --> 01:51:47,520
cross section side view

3176
01:51:51,189 --> 01:51:49,520
of this electrical lasagna noodle

3177
01:51:53,750 --> 01:51:51,199
discharge now

3178
01:51:55,589 --> 01:51:53,760
wait say that again electrical lasagna

3179
01:51:57,669 --> 01:51:55,599
noodle discharge because that's not a

3180
01:51:59,990 --> 01:51:57,679
term that i'm familiar with

3181
01:52:01,750 --> 01:52:00,000
is that a real technical term or did you

3182
01:52:05,109 --> 01:52:01,760
just wait if

3183
01:52:06,790 --> 01:52:05,119
now it came with a good description

3184
01:52:08,550 --> 01:52:06,800
yeah how else to describe this this is

3185
01:52:13,430 --> 01:52:08,560
very strange

3186
01:52:15,430 --> 01:52:13,440
witness said that when he saw the flames

3187
01:52:17,990 --> 01:52:15,440
coming out of this because he

3188
01:52:19,270 --> 01:52:18,000
he asked his daughter to go next door to

3189
01:52:21,270 --> 01:52:19,280
the neighbor who had a pair of

3190
01:52:23,750 --> 01:52:21,280
binoculars and she did that

3191
01:52:25,270 --> 01:52:23,760
she came back within time of him being

3192
01:52:26,950 --> 01:52:25,280
able to see that now this thing passed

3193
01:52:28,550 --> 01:52:26,960
about 300 feet away

3194
01:52:30,470 --> 01:52:28,560
from the top floor of their apartment

3195
01:52:31,589 --> 01:52:30,480
complex so he got a real good close-up

3196
01:52:33,189 --> 01:52:31,599
view of this thing

3197
01:52:34,950 --> 01:52:33,199
through the binoculars and he said that

3198
01:52:37,910 --> 01:52:34,960
the flame

3199
01:52:39,350 --> 01:52:37,920
coming out of these ports did not look

3200
01:52:41,990 --> 01:52:39,360
like a campfire

3201
01:52:44,390 --> 01:52:42,000
flame it looked like an electrical

3202
01:52:47,350 --> 01:52:44,400
discharge that had this s-shaped

3203
01:52:48,550 --> 01:52:47,360
lasagna wave to it that's how it was

3204
01:52:51,270 --> 01:52:48,560
described

3205
01:52:52,390 --> 01:52:51,280
um there was another craft identical to

3206
01:52:53,990 --> 01:52:52,400
this one that passed

3207
01:52:55,830 --> 01:52:54,000
like a few minutes later so there were

3208
01:52:59,350 --> 01:52:55,840
two of these things that went by

3209
01:53:01,750 --> 01:52:59,360
so here's the enlargement of these

3210
01:53:03,589 --> 01:53:01,760
two opposing half hemispherical domes

3211
01:53:04,310 --> 01:53:03,599
with this electrode now there was this

3212
01:53:07,030 --> 01:53:04,320
continuous

3213
01:53:08,950 --> 01:53:07,040
blue colored corona discharge going

3214
01:53:11,350 --> 01:53:08,960
between these two

3215
01:53:13,350 --> 01:53:11,360
and then here is the enlargement of

3216
01:53:14,709 --> 01:53:13,360
these lasagna noodles

3217
01:53:16,629 --> 01:53:14,719
you could call them electrical

3218
01:53:20,310 --> 01:53:16,639
discharges coming out of these

3219
01:53:22,629 --> 01:53:20,320
ports very unusual crap

3220
01:53:23,750 --> 01:53:22,639
i tend to believe this eyewitness i

3221
01:53:26,070 --> 01:53:23,760
really do because

3222
01:53:27,430 --> 01:53:26,080
yeah this one is very unique i that

3223
01:53:28,390 --> 01:53:27,440
struck me when i was reading through

3224
01:53:31,189 --> 01:53:28,400
this i go

3225
01:53:32,790 --> 01:53:31,199
i've read you know thousands of reports

3226
01:53:34,950 --> 01:53:32,800
of different

3227
01:53:36,790 --> 01:53:34,960
and i've never come across the

3228
01:53:39,830 --> 01:53:36,800
configuration like this

3229
01:53:42,070 --> 01:53:39,840
and i i noticed that you're also you

3230
01:53:44,229 --> 01:53:42,080
tend to be like focused on

3231
01:53:46,070 --> 01:53:44,239
configurations of craft right now you

3232
01:53:47,669 --> 01:53:46,080
can compare them like you just did

3233
01:53:50,790 --> 01:53:47,679
earlier you said you know

3234
01:53:51,189 --> 01:53:50,800
this uh these these pipes and and and

3235
01:53:53,589 --> 01:53:51,199
this

3236
01:53:55,350 --> 01:53:53,599
uh you know patchwork of machinery

3237
01:53:57,189 --> 01:53:55,360
that's seen on some tr-3b

3238
01:53:59,109 --> 01:53:57,199
sightings and seen on this case and seen

3239
01:54:01,430 --> 01:53:59,119
in this case this one

3240
01:54:03,669 --> 01:54:01,440
it's pretty unique as far as a

3241
01:54:06,390 --> 01:54:03,679
configuration of an aircraft go

3242
01:54:06,709 --> 01:54:06,400
it's very unique yeah it's very unique

3243
01:54:10,629 --> 01:54:06,719
it's

3244
01:54:12,390 --> 01:54:10,639
that the talk of the electrical arcing

3245
01:54:12,870 --> 01:54:12,400
did would you consider that this is most

3246
01:54:16,070 --> 01:54:12,880
likely

3247
01:54:18,790 --> 01:54:16,080
electrically based propulsion system

3248
01:54:21,750 --> 01:54:18,800
uh i i do believe it's a man-made craft

3249
01:54:24,470 --> 01:54:21,760
i do believe it and i'm not the only one

3250
01:54:27,510 --> 01:54:24,480
i'm not the only one uh okay so we'll

3251
01:54:28,229 --> 01:54:27,520
move on to may 16th 1967 falcon lake

3252
01:54:30,629 --> 01:54:28,239
canada

3253
01:54:32,149 --> 01:54:30,639
this is the famous falcon lake case

3254
01:54:34,070 --> 01:54:32,159
everybody knows about it

3255
01:54:36,310 --> 01:54:34,080
40 feet in diameter so the primary

3256
01:54:39,189 --> 01:54:36,320
eyewitness was stephen nicholas

3257
01:54:40,149 --> 01:54:39,199
he was a rock clown he liked to look for

3258
01:54:43,270 --> 01:54:40,159
minerals

3259
01:54:44,470 --> 01:54:43,280
and so what he was wearing when all this

3260
01:54:47,589 --> 01:54:44,480
was going on

3261
01:54:50,629 --> 01:54:47,599
was like very thick jeans

3262
01:54:53,750 --> 01:54:50,639
he had kind of a thick shirt on

3263
01:54:55,750 --> 01:54:53,760
he was wearing gloves thick gloves and

3264
01:54:57,350 --> 01:54:55,760
then he had welder's goggle on as well

3265
01:55:00,390 --> 01:54:57,360
because he didn't want to get anything

3266
01:55:04,790 --> 01:55:03,589
his eye or anything so as the report had

3267
01:55:06,070 --> 01:55:04,800
talked about there were two of these

3268
01:55:07,510 --> 01:55:06,080
craft that were hovering near his

3269
01:55:09,189 --> 01:55:07,520
location one took off

3270
01:55:11,350 --> 01:55:09,199
the other one landed about 300 yards

3271
01:55:13,750 --> 01:55:11,360
from where he was so he walked over to

3272
01:55:16,550 --> 01:55:13,760
the crack that's what we see here

3273
01:55:17,589 --> 01:55:16,560
kind of had this polished exterior and

3274
01:55:21,109 --> 01:55:17,599
there were

3275
01:55:23,430 --> 01:55:21,119
there was an entry patch that opened up

3276
01:55:25,109 --> 01:55:23,440
and not too far to the entry hatch if

3277
01:55:28,070 --> 01:55:25,119
you look off to the left

3278
01:55:29,189 --> 01:55:28,080
there was this exhaust port smaller than

3279
01:55:31,350 --> 01:55:29,199
the entry hatch

3280
01:55:32,870 --> 01:55:31,360
but stephen it had these perfectly

3281
01:55:34,950 --> 01:55:32,880
drilled holes

3282
01:55:36,070 --> 01:55:34,960
that were you know you could say that it

3283
01:55:38,229 --> 01:55:36,080
was a

3284
01:55:40,070 --> 01:55:38,239
two inch pitch so between each hole

3285
01:55:42,629 --> 01:55:40,080
there was a two inch gap

3286
01:55:44,790 --> 01:55:42,639
perfectly drilled like someone took a

3287
01:55:46,709 --> 01:55:44,800
cnc and did this

3288
01:55:49,430 --> 01:55:46,719
so he walks over to this thing where

3289
01:55:51,990 --> 01:55:49,440
this door opened up

3290
01:55:53,589 --> 01:55:52,000
he could hear this language that he

3291
01:55:55,589 --> 01:55:53,599
couldn't decipher

3292
01:55:57,910 --> 01:55:55,599
uh when he was looking in this he could

3293
01:55:59,510 --> 01:55:57,920
hear this he to this day he they never

3294
01:55:59,990 --> 01:55:59,520
now he passed away a couple years ago

3295
01:56:02,390 --> 01:56:00,000
but

3296
01:56:04,310 --> 01:56:02,400
he could never decipher the language

3297
01:56:07,350 --> 01:56:04,320
that these quote unquote

3298
01:56:09,350 --> 01:56:07,360
inhabitants were talking in uh and if

3299
01:56:12,149 --> 01:56:09,360
you look off to the left here

3300
01:56:13,510 --> 01:56:12,159
you can see this two by three hatch

3301
01:56:15,910 --> 01:56:13,520
that's what you can see here

3302
01:56:16,950 --> 01:56:15,920
and then the six inch by eight inch

3303
01:56:18,870 --> 01:56:16,960
event exhaust

3304
01:56:20,470 --> 01:56:18,880
is off off to the left of that that's

3305
01:56:22,790 --> 01:56:20,480
the sight picture here so

3306
01:56:24,390 --> 01:56:22,800
he's looking in here and then we've done

3307
01:56:26,229 --> 01:56:24,400
an enlargement so you can see what it

3308
01:56:27,669 --> 01:56:26,239
looked like as he was looking inside the

3309
01:56:34,149 --> 01:56:27,679
craft

3310
01:56:37,430 --> 01:56:34,159
and starts rotating counterclockwise and

3311
01:56:39,589 --> 01:56:37,440
that that exhaust port

3312
01:56:41,589 --> 01:56:39,599
with the whole pitch in it lined up with

3313
01:56:42,790 --> 01:56:41,599
his chest and there was some kind of a

3314
01:56:45,990 --> 01:56:42,800
discharge

3315
01:56:48,870 --> 01:56:46,000
it ended up burning his clothes and the

3316
01:56:51,189 --> 01:56:48,880
whole pitch of the exhaust part matched

3317
01:56:52,629 --> 01:56:51,199
up exactly with the burn marks on his

3318
01:56:53,830 --> 01:56:52,639
chest which i'm sure everyone is

3319
01:56:55,510 --> 01:56:53,840
familiar with

3320
01:56:56,950 --> 01:56:55,520
actually this case has always been

3321
01:56:58,950 --> 01:56:56,960
interesting to me because anytime

3322
01:57:01,189 --> 01:56:58,960
there's physical effects

3323
01:57:03,109 --> 01:57:01,199
you know that's proof that it wasn't

3324
01:57:05,430 --> 01:57:03,119
like hallucinated or

3325
01:57:06,870 --> 01:57:05,440
were imagined you know there's actual

3326
01:57:09,990 --> 01:57:06,880
physical burns

3327
01:57:12,870 --> 01:57:10,000
that's right that's right uh caught his

3328
01:57:13,990 --> 01:57:12,880
shirt on fire uh he started throwing up

3329
01:57:16,390 --> 01:57:14,000
he had to

3330
01:57:18,550 --> 01:57:16,400
basically crawl back to his home

3331
01:57:21,669 --> 01:57:18,560
location he was disoriented

3332
01:57:24,709 --> 01:57:21,679
he had medical effects his entire life

3333
01:57:26,310 --> 01:57:24,719
continuing dots on his chest that

3334
01:57:28,070 --> 01:57:26,320
occurred multiple times

3335
01:57:30,390 --> 01:57:28,080
there's the enlargement here he wrote a

3336
01:57:32,229 --> 01:57:30,400
book about his whole encounter

3337
01:57:33,430 --> 01:57:32,239
uh here's some of the original sketch

3338
01:57:35,669 --> 01:57:33,440
artwork that went with the

3339
01:57:36,629 --> 01:57:35,679
you can see his welders goggles on he's

3340
01:57:39,910 --> 01:57:36,639
got a whole

3341
01:57:41,030 --> 01:57:39,920
face covering and then this drawing

3342
01:57:44,629 --> 01:57:41,040
shows you what the

3343
01:57:47,270 --> 01:57:44,639
uh marks on his chest actually look like

3344
01:57:48,310 --> 01:57:47,280
there was some debris found at the site

3345
01:57:51,270 --> 01:57:48,320
as well

3346
01:57:51,990 --> 01:57:51,280
and then what i also want to do and this

3347
01:57:55,030 --> 01:57:52,000
prompt comes from

3348
01:57:57,510 --> 01:57:55,040
antonia who knows this is the official

3349
01:57:59,430 --> 01:57:57,520
falcon-like landing site photo from the

3350
01:58:00,870 --> 01:57:59,440
royal canadian mounting police

3351
01:58:02,629 --> 01:58:00,880
i don't think a lot of people have seen

3352
01:58:13,270 --> 01:58:02,639
this before if you look closely steven

3353
01:58:17,189 --> 01:58:15,189
yeah and those to me have a lot more

3354
01:58:18,550 --> 01:58:17,199
value up for some reason i don't know

3355
01:58:20,149 --> 01:58:18,560
there's something about

3356
01:58:22,229 --> 01:58:20,159
you can see the physical effects of the

3357
01:58:23,750 --> 01:58:22,239
craft landing you can see the burns on

3358
01:58:26,870 --> 01:58:23,760
this gentleman or

3359
01:58:27,669 --> 01:58:26,880
you know some people even experience

3360
01:58:29,430 --> 01:58:27,679
scars

3361
01:58:31,109 --> 01:58:29,440
when they have this sort of thing that

3362
01:58:34,149 --> 01:58:31,119
lasts you know

3363
01:58:35,270 --> 01:58:34,159
for a very very long time that you know

3364
01:58:37,750 --> 01:58:35,280
one of the things about this case that

3365
01:58:39,270 --> 01:58:37,760
was interesting to me is the guy was so

3366
01:58:40,229 --> 01:58:39,280
close he could have just walked right

3367
01:58:42,390 --> 01:58:40,239
into this thing

3368
01:58:44,390 --> 01:58:42,400
and i don't know that if if this was me

3369
01:58:46,550 --> 01:58:44,400
i would have walked inside

3370
01:58:47,510 --> 01:58:46,560
but considering he got burned getting

3371
01:58:49,750 --> 01:58:47,520
that close to it

3372
01:58:52,310 --> 01:58:49,760
i guess that scared him off maybe from

3373
01:58:56,790 --> 01:58:52,320
walking inside

3374
01:58:58,070 --> 01:58:56,800
well it's uh it's a split decision right

3375
01:59:00,390 --> 01:58:58,080
you have no idea what you're getting

3376
01:59:01,750 --> 01:59:00,400
into or

3377
01:59:04,709 --> 01:59:01,760
if you're going to be abducted or

3378
01:59:07,510 --> 01:59:04,719
something and never come back right

3379
01:59:09,109 --> 01:59:07,520
i don't think it was like a defensive

3380
01:59:11,030 --> 01:59:09,119
thing that happened i think it was just

3381
01:59:12,790 --> 01:59:11,040
at the wrong place at the wrong time

3382
01:59:14,830 --> 01:59:12,800
he wouldn't have burned if he was about

3383
01:59:17,589 --> 01:59:14,840
10 degrees to the other side

3384
01:59:20,550 --> 01:59:17,599
so it would have been fine

3385
01:59:22,709 --> 01:59:20,560
but it still goes down as one of these

3386
01:59:24,390 --> 01:59:22,719
classic historical cases now here's the

3387
01:59:27,589 --> 01:59:24,400
actual newspaper clipping

3388
01:59:31,030 --> 01:59:27,599
from the edmonton journal may 24th 1967.

3389
01:59:32,629 --> 01:59:31,040
foul smell persists ufo cider suffers

3390
01:59:34,950 --> 01:59:32,639
chest burns so again

3391
01:59:36,390 --> 01:59:34,960
it's a ce2 case because it has physical

3392
01:59:40,149 --> 01:59:36,400
effects no doubt

3393
01:59:42,870 --> 01:59:40,159
no doubt yeah very very interesting

3394
01:59:44,310 --> 01:59:42,880
and i'm sure you know like something

3395
01:59:46,070 --> 01:59:44,320
like this would be hard to hoax unless

3396
01:59:47,589 --> 01:59:46,080
you wanted to burn yourself

3397
01:59:49,189 --> 01:59:47,599
you know like i just don't see somebody

3398
01:59:53,189 --> 01:59:49,199
mutilating themselves to

3399
01:59:54,790 --> 01:59:53,199
to sell a ufo story in the local paper

3400
01:59:55,750 --> 01:59:54,800
this guy didn't really profit from the

3401
01:59:57,830 --> 01:59:55,760
story

3402
02:00:00,470 --> 01:59:57,840
no i don't i don't think he profited and

3403
02:00:03,430 --> 02:00:00,480
he had medical problems his whole life

3404
02:00:05,669 --> 02:00:03,440
and these dots were reoccurring on his

3405
02:00:09,189 --> 02:00:05,679
chest for his entire life

3406
02:00:12,550 --> 02:00:09,199
difficult to hoax that you know yeah

3407
02:00:14,149 --> 02:00:12,560
yeah great case all right okay

3408
02:00:16,870 --> 02:00:14,159
we'll do a couple more here october 9th

3409
02:00:19,030 --> 02:00:16,880
1972 long island new york

3410
02:00:20,149 --> 02:00:19,040
this is kind of like near the smithtown

3411
02:00:22,629 --> 02:00:20,159
area

3412
02:00:25,189 --> 02:00:22,639
uh primary eyewitness was actually two

3413
02:00:28,310 --> 02:00:25,199
so the husband was driving the car

3414
02:00:30,149 --> 02:00:28,320
and the wife was more bold she got out

3415
02:00:32,550 --> 02:00:30,159
of the passenger side

3416
02:00:33,189 --> 02:00:32,560
and went on to oncoming traffic into the

3417
02:00:34,629 --> 02:00:33,199
other lane

3418
02:00:36,310 --> 02:00:34,639
what they reported saying i call this

3419
02:00:41,189 --> 02:00:36,320
the flying iron

3420
02:00:43,589 --> 02:00:41,199
it was this iron craft it had these

3421
02:00:45,109 --> 02:00:43,599
rectangular elongated white lights on

3422
02:00:46,709 --> 02:00:45,119
the bottom there was a red light on the

3423
02:00:48,870 --> 02:00:46,719
left hand side there was a green light

3424
02:00:50,709 --> 02:00:48,880
on the right hand side but then

3425
02:00:52,070 --> 02:00:50,719
the wife who saw it clearer than the

3426
02:00:53,669 --> 02:00:52,080
husband because he was

3427
02:00:56,070 --> 02:00:53,679
kind of had the window rolled down he

3428
02:00:58,149 --> 02:00:56,080
was looking out from inside the car

3429
02:01:00,310 --> 02:00:58,159
the wife said that she could see two

3430
02:01:01,510 --> 02:01:00,320
poles on the back of this craft and at

3431
02:01:04,390 --> 02:01:01,520
the top of the pole

3432
02:01:05,589 --> 02:01:04,400
there was a wire connecting each pole as

3433
02:01:07,589 --> 02:01:05,599
this thing is flying by

3434
02:01:08,629 --> 02:01:07,599
you know basically almost completely

3435
02:01:11,669 --> 02:01:08,639
silent

3436
02:01:14,629 --> 02:01:11,679
so i asked the question does this really

3437
02:01:17,109 --> 02:01:14,639
look like an alien spacecraft

3438
02:01:19,109 --> 02:01:17,119
does this really look is someone trying

3439
02:01:21,109 --> 02:01:19,119
to sell us a bill of goods here

3440
02:01:23,910 --> 02:01:21,119
this one actually bears some resemblance

3441
02:01:26,390 --> 02:01:23,920
to like the x-37b

3442
02:01:26,950 --> 02:01:26,400
but that wouldn't be floating over a

3443
02:01:30,550 --> 02:01:26,960
road

3444
02:01:33,669 --> 02:01:30,560
you know well it's just uh

3445
02:01:35,030 --> 02:01:33,679
interesting that it's it bears a lot of

3446
02:01:37,350 --> 02:01:35,040
components to these

3447
02:01:39,270 --> 02:01:37,360
high voltage electrical things that you

3448
02:01:41,669 --> 02:01:39,280
see on

3449
02:01:43,510 --> 02:01:41,679
lifters uh different experiments that

3450
02:01:44,229 --> 02:01:43,520
people who are in the community talk

3451
02:01:46,950 --> 02:01:44,239
about

3452
02:01:49,350 --> 02:01:46,960
very similar components here's the

3453
02:01:50,629 --> 02:01:49,360
actual ufo investigator report february

3454
02:01:52,870 --> 02:01:50,639
1973

3455
02:01:54,390 --> 02:01:52,880
they go into this case in great detail

3456
02:01:56,390 --> 02:01:54,400
so and plus we've got the original

3457
02:01:58,149 --> 02:01:56,400
sketches from the primary eyewitness

3458
02:01:59,669 --> 02:01:58,159
it's a very good case here's your

3459
02:02:02,149 --> 02:01:59,679
original sketch

3460
02:02:03,350 --> 02:02:02,159
and you can see her call outs here red

3461
02:02:06,310 --> 02:02:03,360
light green light

3462
02:02:09,270 --> 02:02:06,320
tall antennas uh you can see the cable

3463
02:02:11,510 --> 02:02:09,280
connecting the two poles at the top

3464
02:02:13,430 --> 02:02:11,520
that's interesting that's a little crazy

3465
02:02:15,109 --> 02:02:13,440
i've never seen that before on a flying

3466
02:02:17,589 --> 02:02:15,119
saucer or a ufo report

3467
02:02:18,709 --> 02:02:17,599
why would there be two two poles with

3468
02:02:21,830 --> 02:02:18,719
pliers

3469
02:02:23,510 --> 02:02:21,840
that's right that's right okay so let's

3470
02:02:25,350 --> 02:02:23,520
go over a couple of these historical

3471
02:02:26,629 --> 02:02:25,360
cases now these are the auto binder

3472
02:02:28,470 --> 02:02:26,639
reports

3473
02:02:29,750 --> 02:02:28,480
these were part of something called our

3474
02:02:32,390 --> 02:02:29,760
speech space

3475
02:02:35,350 --> 02:02:32,400
age which was a weekly column published

3476
02:02:37,510 --> 02:02:35,360
between 1965 and 1969

3477
02:02:39,589 --> 02:02:37,520
and people from all around the world

3478
02:02:43,669 --> 02:02:39,599
would write into autobinder

3479
02:02:45,270 --> 02:02:43,679
he would have a very good artist

3480
02:02:46,870 --> 02:02:45,280
draw these cases and then they would

3481
02:02:48,070 --> 02:02:46,880
publish them so i just want to go over a

3482
02:02:52,550 --> 02:02:48,080
couple of these here

3483
02:02:53,589 --> 02:02:52,560
october 12 1796 on columbus day over 170

3484
02:02:55,510 --> 02:02:53,599
years ago

3485
02:02:57,510 --> 02:02:55,520
canadian observers reported an

3486
02:03:00,310 --> 02:02:57,520
astonishing fleet of airships

3487
02:03:02,070 --> 02:03:00,320
ufos with portholes and visible

3488
02:03:03,669 --> 02:03:02,080
occupants sailing over the bay of

3489
02:03:04,390 --> 02:03:03,679
funding from the pacific stars and

3490
02:03:07,669 --> 02:03:04,400
stripes

3491
02:03:10,629 --> 02:03:07,679
this is back in 1796 people are seeing

3492
02:03:14,950 --> 02:03:12,470
this is this is happening now what we've

3493
02:03:16,390 --> 02:03:14,960
done now is we've taken this original

3494
02:03:18,390 --> 02:03:16,400
sketch and we've gone

3495
02:03:19,430 --> 02:03:18,400
color with it and so here's what we came

3496
02:03:22,070 --> 02:03:19,440
up with here

3497
02:03:23,109 --> 02:03:22,080
this shows you what may have actually

3498
02:03:27,350 --> 02:03:23,119
people were seeing

3499
02:03:31,189 --> 02:03:29,350
i right mentioning that but everybody

3500
02:03:31,990 --> 02:03:31,199
talks about that tic tac case like it's

3501
02:03:34,790 --> 02:03:32,000
something new

3502
02:03:35,270 --> 02:03:34,800
and i found various i have found so many

3503
02:03:38,149 --> 02:03:35,280
different

3504
02:03:38,709 --> 02:03:38,159
examples of a craft shaped like that in

3505
02:03:41,270 --> 02:03:38,719
different

3506
02:03:41,750 --> 02:03:41,280
cases going back not as far as you

3507
02:03:43,109 --> 02:03:41,760
failed

3508
02:03:44,950 --> 02:03:43,119
because you're a little crazier than me

3509
02:03:49,350 --> 02:03:44,960
michael schratt you went back to

3510
02:03:52,709 --> 02:03:49,360
what 17 1796 1796

3511
02:03:56,390 --> 02:03:52,719
g yep being reported in 1796

3512
02:03:59,189 --> 02:03:56,400
july 1868 villagers in campagio

3513
02:04:00,870 --> 02:03:59,199
chile were frightened by a giant

3514
02:04:03,669 --> 02:04:00,880
armor-plated machine

3515
02:04:05,350 --> 02:04:03,679
covered with steel scales whose twin

3516
02:04:08,950 --> 02:04:05,360
searchlight eyes stamped down

3517
02:04:11,270 --> 02:04:08,960
brilliantly this is back in 1868

3518
02:04:12,310 --> 02:04:11,280
this is long before the 1897 mystery

3519
02:04:13,990 --> 02:04:12,320
airship wave

3520
02:04:15,589 --> 02:04:14,000
and they're still reporting these

3521
02:04:17,910 --> 02:04:15,599
beaming lights coming down

3522
02:04:19,830 --> 02:04:17,920
all right so here we've got the original

3523
02:04:22,069 --> 02:04:19,840
drawing now we'll go to the color

3524
02:04:23,750 --> 02:04:22,079
that's the color and you can see the

3525
02:04:25,669 --> 02:04:23,760
scales on this craft you can see the

3526
02:04:27,270 --> 02:04:25,679
beaming light coming down this is all

3527
02:04:29,109 --> 02:04:27,280
before the wright brothers

3528
02:04:31,270 --> 02:04:29,119
so this is this has been going on this

3529
02:04:33,189 --> 02:04:31,280
is not a new thing at all

3530
02:04:34,870 --> 02:04:33,199
yeah it reminds me of the legend of the

3531
02:04:37,910 --> 02:04:34,880
thunderbirds as well

3532
02:04:38,709 --> 02:04:37,920
yep that's right then well a native

3533
02:04:40,390 --> 02:04:38,719
american

3534
02:04:41,750 --> 02:04:40,400
legend of the thunderbirds were that

3535
02:04:44,069 --> 02:04:41,760
they were huge

3536
02:04:45,910 --> 02:04:44,079
flying birds and some people believe

3537
02:04:49,460 --> 02:04:45,920
what they were actually seeing was

3538
02:04:51,189 --> 02:04:49,470
physical craft and not huge birds

3539
02:04:53,589 --> 02:04:51,199
[Music]

3540
02:04:54,790 --> 02:04:53,599
well you never know right who knows but

3541
02:04:58,149 --> 02:04:54,800
it doesn't look like it's

3542
02:04:58,790 --> 02:04:58,159
something that's not uh it's not rare

3543
02:05:00,390 --> 02:04:58,800
it's been said

3544
02:05:01,910 --> 02:05:00,400
oh no somebody in the live chat is

3545
02:05:04,229 --> 02:05:01,920
mentioning because people keep asking me

3546
02:05:07,109 --> 02:05:04,239
to do slides

3547
02:05:09,109 --> 02:05:07,119
bernard says great presentation tonight

3548
02:05:10,069 --> 02:05:09,119
setting the bar high for steven's next

3549
02:05:13,430 --> 02:05:10,079
slideshow

3550
02:05:15,830 --> 02:05:13,440
yeah i will not be doing anywhere near

3551
02:05:16,790 --> 02:05:15,840
as good a presentation i'm just warning

3552
02:05:19,189 --> 02:05:16,800
you all

3553
02:05:20,550 --> 02:05:19,199
so you know we're starting at the top

3554
02:05:22,709 --> 02:05:20,560
with the very best

3555
02:05:24,310 --> 02:05:22,719
slides and presentation possible and

3556
02:05:26,390 --> 02:05:24,320
it's only going to get worse from here

3557
02:05:27,669 --> 02:05:26,400
i'm just warning everyone can't do

3558
02:05:31,030 --> 02:05:27,679
better than this

3559
02:05:33,109 --> 02:05:31,040
i don't think so all right this was one

3560
02:05:35,189 --> 02:05:33,119
that also came from qfl's archives

3561
02:05:38,069 --> 02:05:35,199
september 4th 1967

3562
02:05:39,990 --> 02:05:38,079
greece 25 feet in diameter now the two

3563
02:05:41,830 --> 02:05:40,000
eyewitnesses were brothers they were on

3564
02:05:44,390 --> 02:05:41,840
the top floor of their apartment complex

3565
02:05:47,430 --> 02:05:44,400
they were setting up stereo equipment

3566
02:05:47,990 --> 02:05:47,440
when one said to the other one what is

3567
02:05:51,270 --> 02:05:48,000
this

3568
02:05:54,229 --> 02:05:51,280
craft

3569
02:05:55,189 --> 02:05:54,239
hovered and i kid you not 10 feet above

3570
02:05:58,709 --> 02:05:55,199
their heads

3571
02:06:01,750 --> 02:05:58,719
hovering there

3572
02:06:04,550 --> 02:06:01,760
and uh this is how they described it

3573
02:06:05,910 --> 02:06:04,560
quote gliding on an oil pathway in the

3574
02:06:07,510 --> 02:06:05,920
sky that's how

3575
02:06:09,750 --> 02:06:07,520
they described it this thing was not

3576
02:06:11,990 --> 02:06:09,760
flying these craft do not

3577
02:06:13,589 --> 02:06:12,000
fly using the principles of the

3578
02:06:15,430 --> 02:06:13,599
bernoulli theory that we know about

3579
02:06:15,990 --> 02:06:15,440
aerodynamic flight that's not how these

3580
02:06:17,109 --> 02:06:16,000
things fly

3581
02:06:19,189 --> 02:06:17,119
whatsoever we're talking about a

3582
02:06:21,430 --> 02:06:19,199
different technology here they don't

3583
02:06:23,430 --> 02:06:21,440
need forward flight to hover

3584
02:06:25,510 --> 02:06:23,440
uh that's what he's describing here

3585
02:06:26,950 --> 02:06:25,520
apparently downward thrust

3586
02:06:29,350 --> 02:06:26,960
because people have been right under

3587
02:06:31,830 --> 02:06:29,360
these things they would feel thrust

3588
02:06:34,390 --> 02:06:31,840
most of these cases of these silent

3589
02:06:37,030 --> 02:06:34,400
flying saucer type craft people don't

3590
02:06:38,870 --> 02:06:37,040
you know people have been 20 feet it's

3591
02:06:39,589 --> 02:06:38,880
been 20 feet above them they don't feel

3592
02:06:41,030 --> 02:06:39,599
like the thing

3593
02:06:43,030 --> 02:06:41,040
blowing downward thrust like a

3594
02:06:45,030 --> 02:06:43,040
helicopter or a vtol

3595
02:06:47,189 --> 02:06:45,040
jet would be doing that's exactly

3596
02:06:49,189 --> 02:06:47,199
correct now here is his original drawing

3597
02:06:51,910 --> 02:06:49,199
he did a beautiful job on the drawing

3598
02:06:52,790 --> 02:06:51,920
when you see something like this folks

3599
02:06:54,470 --> 02:06:52,800
you can pretty much

3600
02:06:56,470 --> 02:06:54,480
bank on it i mean they're not going to

3601
02:06:58,470 --> 02:06:56,480
write a 12-page report

3602
02:06:59,510 --> 02:06:58,480
with a flight path and a technical

3603
02:07:01,030 --> 02:06:59,520
engineering drawing

3604
02:07:04,470 --> 02:07:01,040
that gets down to the mind nude as

3605
02:07:06,470 --> 02:07:04,480
detail this this is a reliable report

3606
02:07:08,149 --> 02:07:06,480
uh the guy did a great job on it just a

3607
02:07:10,069 --> 02:07:08,159
great job my drawing

3608
02:07:13,270 --> 02:07:10,079
didn't even close to his but he did a

3609
02:07:16,470 --> 02:07:13,280
really good job

3610
02:07:18,709 --> 02:07:16,480
now let's move on to the father june 26

3611
02:07:21,189 --> 02:07:18,719
1959

3612
02:07:22,470 --> 02:07:21,199
it's a great case all right so we've got

3613
02:07:25,589 --> 02:07:22,480
uh

3614
02:07:27,910 --> 02:07:25,599
multiple eyewitnesses at least 25

3615
02:07:28,709 --> 02:07:27,920
of the local people in conjunction with

3616
02:07:32,709 --> 02:07:28,719
father gill

3617
02:07:33,910 --> 02:07:32,719
who saw what they described as a 35 foot

3618
02:07:36,470 --> 02:07:33,920
diameter

3619
02:07:37,990 --> 02:07:36,480
double wedding cake so the bottom layer

3620
02:07:40,470 --> 02:07:38,000
is 35 feet in diameter

3621
02:07:41,750 --> 02:07:40,480
the upper layer is 20 feet in diameter

3622
02:07:44,390 --> 02:07:41,760
and they could see

3623
02:07:44,790 --> 02:07:44,400
what looked like four human looking

3624
02:07:46,709 --> 02:07:44,800
being

3625
02:07:48,390 --> 02:07:46,719
they were not alien looking they look

3626
02:07:50,310 --> 02:07:48,400
like human beings

3627
02:07:52,229 --> 02:07:50,320
there were four of them there were two

3628
02:07:54,790 --> 02:07:52,239
forward on the outer lip

3629
02:07:56,870 --> 02:07:54,800
of the upper part of the craft itself

3630
02:07:58,149 --> 02:07:56,880
the other two were further back toward

3631
02:07:59,189 --> 02:07:58,159
the center they were a little bit more

3632
02:08:01,430 --> 02:07:59,199
obscure

3633
02:08:02,950 --> 02:08:01,440
but they said quote it looked like they

3634
02:08:05,750 --> 02:08:02,960
were setting up equipment

3635
02:08:06,310 --> 02:08:05,760
end quote okay so i thought that was

3636
02:08:07,750 --> 02:08:06,320
interesting

3637
02:08:09,669 --> 02:08:07,760
yeah why would they be on the deck of a

3638
02:08:10,470 --> 02:08:09,679
flying saucer setting up equipment

3639
02:08:12,870 --> 02:08:10,480
that's odd

3640
02:08:14,709 --> 02:08:12,880
and you know interestingly i grew up

3641
02:08:16,790 --> 02:08:14,719
catholic michael and if you ask

3642
02:08:20,950 --> 02:08:16,800
a lot of catholic priests about ufos

3643
02:08:24,069 --> 02:08:22,790
that yeah thought this case was

3644
02:08:25,990 --> 02:08:24,079
interesting because it involved the

3645
02:08:27,990 --> 02:08:26,000
catholic priest

3646
02:08:29,350 --> 02:08:28,000
now what what happened next though is

3647
02:08:32,950 --> 02:08:29,360
interesting because

3648
02:08:33,350 --> 02:08:32,960
father gill he waved his hand above his

3649
02:08:35,910 --> 02:08:33,360
head

3650
02:08:37,350 --> 02:08:35,920
and waved at the beings on the craft and

3651
02:08:39,910 --> 02:08:37,360
they waved back

3652
02:08:40,709 --> 02:08:39,920
that's what this case is actually called

3653
02:08:42,709 --> 02:08:40,719
they call it though

3654
02:08:43,830 --> 02:08:42,719
they wave back case that's what this is

3655
02:08:46,229 --> 02:08:43,840
actually called

3656
02:08:47,589 --> 02:08:46,239
so here we see another example of aliens

3657
02:08:50,470 --> 02:08:47,599
waving at people

3658
02:08:51,189 --> 02:08:50,480
that's right that's right so there was

3659
02:08:52,550 --> 02:08:51,199
no

3660
02:08:54,629 --> 02:08:52,560
aliens they said that they were

3661
02:08:54,950 --> 02:08:54,639
described as human they were described

3662
02:08:57,830 --> 02:08:54,960
as

3663
02:08:58,629 --> 02:08:57,840
looking like human men correct correct

3664
02:09:00,790 --> 02:08:58,639
and there was a

3665
02:09:03,189 --> 02:09:00,800
light bluish white color beaming

3666
02:09:04,629 --> 02:09:03,199
spotlight that came off at a 5 45 degree

3667
02:09:06,870 --> 02:09:04,639
angle and we'll go ahead and do an

3668
02:09:07,990 --> 02:09:06,880
an enlargement here you can see the

3669
02:09:09,910 --> 02:09:08,000
enlargement

3670
02:09:11,669 --> 02:09:09,920
and then the beam waving back but what's

3671
02:09:14,470 --> 02:09:11,679
interesting about this is

3672
02:09:16,390 --> 02:09:14,480
number one the amount of eyewitnesses

3673
02:09:18,229 --> 02:09:16,400
that saw it and number two

3674
02:09:19,910 --> 02:09:18,239
a couple years ago when i spoke to paul

3675
02:09:23,350 --> 02:09:19,920
heinen he said you know what

3676
02:09:24,390 --> 02:09:23,360
my father gil came to our house in

3677
02:09:26,350 --> 02:09:24,400
evanston

3678
02:09:27,990 --> 02:09:26,360
for dinner one night somewhere around

3679
02:09:30,790 --> 02:09:28,000
1974.

3680
02:09:32,790 --> 02:09:30,800
so it was father gill jalen heineck and

3681
02:09:33,669 --> 02:09:32,800
his son paul heineck are at dinner

3682
02:09:35,510 --> 02:09:33,679
engagement

3683
02:09:37,589 --> 02:09:35,520
and he said that father gill laid out

3684
02:09:39,990 --> 02:09:37,599
the entire case

3685
02:09:41,669 --> 02:09:40,000
and he wasn't seeking fame or fortune he

3686
02:09:43,189 --> 02:09:41,679
just laid it out and when i heard that

3687
02:09:46,709 --> 02:09:43,199
from paul

3688
02:09:48,310 --> 02:09:46,719
i said oh boy this is a real case

3689
02:09:49,750 --> 02:09:48,320
yeah who is he's talking about i don't

3690
02:09:51,830 --> 02:09:49,760
know somebody is asking if

3691
02:09:53,109 --> 02:09:51,840
is critical thinking being applied here

3692
02:09:56,390 --> 02:09:53,119
michael is using

3693
02:09:58,950 --> 02:09:56,400
historical sources to create these uh

3694
02:10:00,149 --> 02:09:58,960
illustrations and description of what

3695
02:10:01,910 --> 02:10:00,159
people saw

3696
02:10:03,510 --> 02:10:01,920
so i'm not sure you know what that

3697
02:10:04,310 --> 02:10:03,520
comment is about but just wanted to

3698
02:10:07,350 --> 02:10:04,320
acknowledge it

3699
02:10:09,189 --> 02:10:07,360
you know well i mean look at the pattern

3700
02:10:11,030 --> 02:10:09,199
recognition that we're seeing here okay

3701
02:10:12,870 --> 02:10:11,040
we've talked about tubes pipes and

3702
02:10:14,470 --> 02:10:12,880
cylinders that's being seen on multiple

3703
02:10:16,790 --> 02:10:14,480
cases we're looking at

3704
02:10:18,229 --> 02:10:16,800
prongs and protrusions that we're seeing

3705
02:10:20,550 --> 02:10:18,239
on multiple cases

3706
02:10:22,470 --> 02:10:20,560
we're seeing these beings with the tight

3707
02:10:24,310 --> 02:10:22,480
fitting flight suits we're looking at

3708
02:10:27,589 --> 02:10:24,320
people that waving back

3709
02:10:27,990 --> 02:10:27,599
this light motif that keeps up popping

3710
02:10:31,350 --> 02:10:28,000
up again

3711
02:10:33,910 --> 02:10:31,360
and so this pattern recognition keeps on

3712
02:10:36,629 --> 02:10:33,920
popping up on these different cases

3713
02:10:38,310 --> 02:10:36,639
different times different locations it's

3714
02:10:39,030 --> 02:10:38,320
something that we should consider for

3715
02:10:41,350 --> 02:10:39,040
sure

3716
02:10:42,229 --> 02:10:41,360
uh just a few more here chicago o'hare

3717
02:10:45,350 --> 02:10:42,239
april may

3718
02:10:46,550 --> 02:10:45,360
2001 i spoke to the original eyewitness

3719
02:10:48,069 --> 02:10:46,560
who saw

3720
02:10:50,629 --> 02:10:48,079
now in this view it looks more like a

3721
02:10:53,910 --> 02:10:50,639
cigar-shaped craft the actual craft was

3722
02:10:56,149 --> 02:10:53,920
circular and there were about

3723
02:10:58,149 --> 02:10:56,159
six eyewitnesses that saw this this is

3724
02:11:00,709 --> 02:10:58,159
that the ozark hanger

3725
02:11:01,270 --> 02:11:00,719
at o'hare airport it was early in the

3726
02:11:03,270 --> 02:11:01,280
morning

3727
02:11:04,790 --> 02:11:03,280
it had rained the night before so the

3728
02:11:07,510 --> 02:11:04,800
tarmac was rut

3729
02:11:09,270 --> 02:11:07,520
what and this circular shaped craft

3730
02:11:12,030 --> 02:11:09,280
comes flying by

3731
02:11:13,430 --> 02:11:12,040
and he said that it had 12 of these

3732
02:11:16,629 --> 02:11:13,440
elongated

3733
02:11:17,350 --> 02:11:16,639
rectangular round edge lights on either

3734
02:11:19,109 --> 02:11:17,360
side

3735
02:11:21,750 --> 02:11:19,119
he said i had a transparent bubble

3736
02:11:23,430 --> 02:11:21,760
canopy there was a circular port on top

3737
02:11:24,790 --> 02:11:23,440
but then he said steven that on the

3738
02:11:27,030 --> 02:11:24,800
bottom of this thing

3739
02:11:29,430 --> 02:11:27,040
there was prongs of protrusion sticking

3740
02:11:32,229 --> 02:11:29,440
out and then above that

3741
02:11:34,629 --> 02:11:32,239
there were these octopus tentacles that

3742
02:11:37,910 --> 02:11:34,639
were moving around like it was alive

3743
02:11:39,030 --> 02:11:37,920
and i like i like this part of the this

3744
02:11:41,030 --> 02:11:39,040
is a great and

3745
02:11:42,069 --> 02:11:41,040
it's another unique thing i've not i've

3746
02:11:43,750 --> 02:11:42,079
not heard about

3747
02:11:45,750 --> 02:11:43,760
this kind of thing before i'm sorry go

3748
02:11:46,229 --> 02:11:45,760
ahead nope that's fine there was a there

3749
02:11:48,470 --> 02:11:46,239
was a

3750
02:11:49,669 --> 02:11:48,480
highly polished chrome ball that was

3751
02:11:51,589 --> 02:11:49,679
about 12 visions

3752
02:11:53,350 --> 02:11:51,599
in diameter at the end of this tentacle

3753
02:11:53,990 --> 02:11:53,360
that's something that we've seen before

3754
02:11:55,830 --> 02:11:54,000
too

3755
02:11:57,589 --> 02:11:55,840
all these prongs and protrusions with

3756
02:11:59,750 --> 02:11:57,599
these balls at the end of them

3757
02:12:02,550 --> 02:11:59,760
uh here's the original sketch by the

3758
02:12:04,870 --> 02:12:02,560
eyewitness this is the first pass sketch

3759
02:12:06,870 --> 02:12:04,880
i have his second sketch which we've

3760
02:12:09,030 --> 02:12:06,880
reproduced here

3761
02:12:11,109 --> 02:12:09,040
this is pretty much almost exactly what

3762
02:12:13,589 --> 02:12:11,119
the crap looked like it was flying by

3763
02:12:14,149 --> 02:12:13,599
now what's interesting is when this

3764
02:12:17,750 --> 02:12:14,159
craft

3765
02:12:21,350 --> 02:12:17,760
flew by the ozark hanger it also

3766
02:12:23,430 --> 02:12:21,360
flew by an active runway and 10 seconds

3767
02:12:26,149 --> 02:12:23,440
after it passed an active runway at

3768
02:12:28,709 --> 02:12:26,159
o'hare airport back in 2001

3769
02:12:30,629 --> 02:12:28,719
there was this rumbling low frequency

3770
02:12:31,430 --> 02:12:30,639
roaring noise on the other side of the

3771
02:12:34,790 --> 02:12:31,440
airport

3772
02:12:37,350 --> 02:12:34,800
it was a 747 on takeoff roll it had

3773
02:12:38,470 --> 02:12:37,360
almost made had a mid-air collision with

3774
02:12:41,830 --> 02:12:38,480
this craft

3775
02:12:42,950 --> 02:12:41,840
bit later

3776
02:12:44,390 --> 02:12:42,960
there might have been a mid-air

3777
02:12:45,990 --> 02:12:44,400
collision hundreds of people could have

3778
02:12:48,390 --> 02:12:46,000
been killed

3779
02:12:49,669 --> 02:12:48,400
so but this thing knew what it was doing

3780
02:12:51,750 --> 02:12:49,679
it flew on by

3781
02:12:53,270 --> 02:12:51,760
and uh they they got a good look at this

3782
02:12:55,589 --> 02:12:53,280
thing and multiple

3783
02:12:56,390 --> 02:12:55,599
witnesses i just want to mention that

3784
02:12:59,189 --> 02:12:56,400
six senses

3785
02:13:01,189 --> 02:12:59,199
commenting that that does uh i'm curious

3786
02:13:02,229 --> 02:13:01,199
of the sources google is failing bad

3787
02:13:04,950 --> 02:13:02,239
very little if

3788
02:13:06,709 --> 02:13:04,960
any information on these cases these the

3789
02:13:10,470 --> 02:13:06,719
book is literally called dark

3790
02:13:13,510 --> 02:13:10,480
files little known cases

3791
02:13:16,069 --> 02:13:13,520
so michael has copies of

3792
02:13:18,149 --> 02:13:16,079
of this archive that he's taking a lot

3793
02:13:21,830 --> 02:13:18,159
of this information from that is not

3794
02:13:24,149 --> 02:13:21,840
mostly publicly available information

3795
02:13:26,229 --> 02:13:24,159
so you know that may explain why you're

3796
02:13:26,470 --> 02:13:26,239
not finding very much on google these

3797
02:13:28,629 --> 02:13:26,480
are

3798
02:13:30,229 --> 02:13:28,639
little literally the book is called

3799
02:13:31,910 --> 02:13:30,239
little-known cases right

3800
02:13:33,350 --> 02:13:31,920
so that's right that that was the whole

3801
02:13:35,830 --> 02:13:33,360
point of the whole thing is to

3802
02:13:37,030 --> 02:13:35,840
resurrect these historical cases that

3803
02:13:39,270 --> 02:13:37,040
are very obscure

3804
02:13:42,069 --> 02:13:39,280
that was the the whole bottom line of

3805
02:13:44,709 --> 02:13:42,079
the pictorial history of lost forgotten

3806
02:13:46,550 --> 02:13:44,719
and obscure ufo encounters this is one

3807
02:13:48,069 --> 02:13:46,560
of the reasons why i enjoyed this book

3808
02:13:50,709 --> 02:13:48,079
so much success because

3809
02:13:51,669 --> 02:13:50,719
i hadn't heard these stories a hundred

3810
02:13:53,910 --> 02:13:51,679
other places

3811
02:13:54,709 --> 02:13:53,920
you know how many times can you hear

3812
02:13:57,510 --> 02:13:54,719
roswell

3813
02:13:59,669 --> 02:13:57,520
or you know randallstrom forest you know

3814
02:14:01,350 --> 02:13:59,679
it just gets old after a while

3815
02:14:02,950 --> 02:14:01,360
the reason i enjoyed this book so much

3816
02:14:05,430 --> 02:14:02,960
is because it is obscure

3817
02:14:06,390 --> 02:14:05,440
cases that are little known and and

3818
02:14:09,189 --> 02:14:06,400
there is not much

3819
02:14:10,550 --> 02:14:09,199
uh there's not much publicly available

3820
02:14:13,589 --> 02:14:10,560
information but this

3821
02:14:14,629 --> 02:14:13,599
archive that michael has access to full

3822
02:14:17,990 --> 02:14:14,639
access to

3823
02:14:19,030 --> 02:14:18,000
has a treasure trove of little known ufo

3824
02:14:20,950 --> 02:14:19,040
information

3825
02:14:22,149 --> 02:14:20,960
and so i for one applaud him for

3826
02:14:25,750 --> 02:14:22,159
bringing this stuff out

3827
02:14:29,030 --> 02:14:25,760
and this book is sure to be cited as

3828
02:14:30,310 --> 02:14:29,040
sources for decades to come because of

3829
02:14:32,709 --> 02:14:30,320
all the information

3830
02:14:34,229 --> 02:14:32,719
it's very data rich but it's also very

3831
02:14:35,510 --> 02:14:34,239
enjoyable because of all of these

3832
02:14:38,790 --> 02:14:35,520
illustrations

3833
02:14:41,990 --> 02:14:38,800
all of these full colored depictions

3834
02:14:43,990 --> 02:14:42,000
i highly recommend the book thank you

3835
02:14:45,990 --> 02:14:44,000
that's great michael's not gay he's he's

3836
02:14:48,870 --> 02:14:46,000
not getting rich selling an ebook

3837
02:14:52,470 --> 02:14:48,880
friends yeah what did you what did you

3838
02:14:58,390 --> 02:14:55,510
it's together all this together 30 years

3839
02:14:58,709 --> 02:14:58,400
you know we haven't yeah and what do you

3840
02:15:02,069 --> 02:14:58,719
sell

3841
02:15:05,270 --> 02:15:02,079
think it's 7.99 you know

3842
02:15:06,629 --> 02:15:05,280
you know i do it for free i do it for

3843
02:15:08,470 --> 02:15:06,639
free because it's a crusade

3844
02:15:10,550 --> 02:15:08,480
it belongs to everyone it belongs to

3845
02:15:12,229 --> 02:15:10,560
everyone can you explain a little bit

3846
02:15:13,350 --> 02:15:12,239
about the what is it called the kufos

3847
02:15:16,069 --> 02:15:13,360
collection

3848
02:15:17,189 --> 02:15:16,079
yeah the center for ufo studies that

3849
02:15:19,589 --> 02:15:17,199
used to be

3850
02:15:21,910 --> 02:15:19,599
near downtown chicago but is now under

3851
02:15:23,750 --> 02:15:21,920
the jurisdiction of david marlar in

3852
02:15:25,350 --> 02:15:23,760
albuquerque new mexico he's got the

3853
02:15:28,390 --> 02:15:25,360
original 18

3854
02:15:31,270 --> 02:15:28,400
file drawers that make up thousands

3855
02:15:33,109 --> 02:15:31,280
of cases they basically had the world's

3856
02:15:35,669 --> 02:15:33,119
largest private collection

3857
02:15:37,589 --> 02:15:35,679
of ufo cases in the united states period

3858
02:15:40,870 --> 02:15:37,599
but at this point

3859
02:15:44,069 --> 02:15:40,880
with that collection plus david marlar's

3860
02:15:46,709 --> 02:15:44,079
original collection he now has all

3861
02:15:47,270 --> 02:15:46,719
of the he's got the largest private

3862
02:15:48,950 --> 02:15:47,280
collection

3863
02:15:51,430 --> 02:15:48,960
period in the united states there's

3864
02:15:53,270 --> 02:15:51,440
bigger than yours even bigger than yours

3865
02:15:54,629 --> 02:15:53,280
i would say bigger than mine because

3866
02:15:57,270 --> 02:15:54,639
he's got the original

3867
02:15:58,310 --> 02:15:57,280
file of drawers that these and for those

3868
02:16:00,550 --> 02:15:58,320
that don't know like

3869
02:16:02,069 --> 02:16:00,560
uh i i want to i just want to mention

3870
02:16:04,470 --> 02:16:02,079
that there seems to be this

3871
02:16:06,470 --> 02:16:04,480
this multitude of what i call

3872
02:16:09,910 --> 02:16:06,480
right-click researchers

3873
02:16:11,589 --> 02:16:09,920
which means yeah if they can't if there

3874
02:16:13,030 --> 02:16:11,599
is so many people that if they can't

3875
02:16:15,109 --> 02:16:13,040
find it on the internet

3876
02:16:16,149 --> 02:16:15,119
they're not going to be able to do any

3877
02:16:18,870 --> 02:16:16,159
anything with it

3878
02:16:19,669 --> 02:16:18,880
you know and and conversely there was

3879
02:16:21,189 --> 02:16:19,679
people

3880
02:16:22,709 --> 02:16:21,199
and and i would count like stanton

3881
02:16:25,510 --> 02:16:22,719
friedman and grant

3882
02:16:26,790 --> 02:16:25,520
cameron and you michael schrad an alien

3883
02:16:28,709 --> 02:16:26,800
scientist and a few other

3884
02:16:30,550 --> 02:16:28,719
people that i'm aware of that will

3885
02:16:31,270 --> 02:16:30,560
literally get on a plane and go to

3886
02:16:33,349 --> 02:16:31,280
chicago

3887
02:16:34,309 --> 02:16:33,359
because there's a ufo archive out there

3888
02:16:37,349 --> 02:16:34,319
that will let me dig

3889
02:16:39,509 --> 02:16:37,359
into it yeah and this is the this is the

3890
02:16:41,910 --> 02:16:39,519
good stuff friends this is the good

3891
02:16:42,629 --> 02:16:41,920
stuff the stuff you cannot find on the

3892
02:16:45,910 --> 02:16:42,639
internet so

3893
02:16:47,669 --> 02:16:45,920
easily so yeah kudos to people like

3894
02:16:48,230 --> 02:16:47,679
michael stratton others who actually

3895
02:16:50,070 --> 02:16:48,240
will get

3896
02:16:51,830 --> 02:16:50,080
on a plane or get in a car and drive

3897
02:16:54,309 --> 02:16:51,840
eight hours someplace

3898
02:16:56,629 --> 02:16:54,319
to go and get this information and

3899
02:16:59,110 --> 02:16:56,639
translate it and bring it to the public

3900
02:16:59,830 --> 02:16:59,120
what a great job you did on this thanks

3901
02:17:01,429 --> 02:16:59,840
a lot any

3902
02:17:03,669 --> 02:17:01,439
anything for the research anything for

3903
02:17:05,190 --> 02:17:03,679
the research and i think we'll we'll go

3904
02:17:07,589 --> 02:17:05,200
ahead and do this one here so this

3905
02:17:08,629 --> 02:17:07,599
this is my favorite project blue

3906
02:17:11,429 --> 02:17:08,639
bookcase i just

3907
02:17:12,070 --> 02:17:11,439
love this case i love this case all

3908
02:17:16,629 --> 02:17:12,080
right

3909
02:17:19,669 --> 02:17:16,639
march 23rd 1966 temple oklahoma

3910
02:17:22,389 --> 02:17:19,679
about 506 in the morning

3911
02:17:23,429 --> 02:17:22,399
the primary eyewitness is a man by the

3912
02:17:26,150 --> 02:17:23,439
name of eddie

3913
02:17:27,990 --> 02:17:26,160
laxon now he is an electrical engineer

3914
02:17:30,629 --> 02:17:28,000
instructor at shepherd air force

3915
02:17:32,950 --> 02:17:30,639
base he's driving to work in the morning

3916
02:17:35,349 --> 02:17:32,960
and all of a sudden stephen

3917
02:17:36,389 --> 02:17:35,359
he encounters something that's blocking

3918
02:17:38,230 --> 02:17:36,399
the road it's like

3919
02:17:39,990 --> 02:17:38,240
landing right in front of the road it's

3920
02:17:42,709 --> 02:17:40,000
blocking his car

3921
02:17:44,230 --> 02:17:42,719
and what he he gets out of the car he

3922
02:17:44,950 --> 02:17:44,240
kind of walks toward the front of the

3923
02:17:48,070 --> 02:17:44,960
vehicle and

3924
02:17:49,349 --> 02:17:48,080
how he described this thing is is he

3925
02:17:50,870 --> 02:17:49,359
said that this thing looked like a

3926
02:17:53,830 --> 02:17:50,880
bowling pin

3927
02:17:54,870 --> 02:17:53,840
it also looked like a fish or a perch

3928
02:17:57,030 --> 02:17:54,880
now it had uh

3929
02:17:58,389 --> 02:17:57,040
it was about 75 feet in length it was

3930
02:18:00,469 --> 02:17:58,399
eight feet tall

3931
02:18:01,830 --> 02:18:00,479
it had a bubble transparent canopy that

3932
02:18:03,669 --> 02:18:01,840
looked like it was taken from a world

3933
02:18:05,910 --> 02:18:03,679
war two b26

3934
02:18:08,150 --> 02:18:05,920
just after that there were two high

3935
02:18:10,230 --> 02:18:08,160
intensity beaming spotlights going

3936
02:18:13,270 --> 02:18:10,240
toward the front end of the craft

3937
02:18:15,190 --> 02:18:13,280
and then also beaming toward the bottom

3938
02:18:16,309 --> 02:18:15,200
the whole thing was propped up on what

3939
02:18:19,270 --> 02:18:16,319
they look like these

3940
02:18:19,589 --> 02:18:19,280
quote-unquote lunar landing gear legs

3941
02:18:22,629 --> 02:18:19,599
now

3942
02:18:25,270 --> 02:18:22,639
after the forward lunar lakes there was

3943
02:18:27,110 --> 02:18:25,280
a air stair door with a cutout

3944
02:18:29,110 --> 02:18:27,120
leading in toward the interior of the

3945
02:18:31,990 --> 02:18:29,120
craft and there was

3946
02:18:32,469 --> 02:18:32,000
a i can only describe it as he described

3947
02:18:34,950 --> 02:18:32,479
it

3948
02:18:36,389 --> 02:18:34,960
he said that there was a man not an

3949
02:18:39,270 --> 02:18:36,399
alien a man

3950
02:18:40,709 --> 02:18:39,280
he was wearing two-piece military green

3951
02:18:42,790 --> 02:18:40,719
fatigues

3952
02:18:45,270 --> 02:18:42,800
he had a baseball cap with the bill

3953
02:18:46,870 --> 02:18:45,280
turned up he was shining a flashlight

3954
02:18:48,790 --> 02:18:46,880
toward the bottom of the craft like he

3955
02:18:51,750 --> 02:18:48,800
was inspecting something

3956
02:18:52,230 --> 02:18:51,760
like he's trying to fix it right he's

3957
02:18:54,870 --> 02:18:52,240
this is

3958
02:18:55,910 --> 02:18:54,880
bizarre because the craft if if you just

3959
02:18:59,190 --> 02:18:55,920
look at the craft

3960
02:19:02,469 --> 02:18:59,200
that looks like alien spacecraft

3961
02:19:04,150 --> 02:19:02,479
right but then the guy outside of it is

3962
02:19:06,230 --> 02:19:04,160
in military fatigues and looks

3963
02:19:07,429 --> 02:19:06,240
completely and totally human which of

3964
02:19:09,669 --> 02:19:07,439
course would indicate

3965
02:19:10,790 --> 02:19:09,679
right not entirely right well well what

3966
02:19:13,990 --> 02:19:10,800
i'm saying here is

3967
02:19:14,230 --> 02:19:14,000
uh not only did he look human eddie lex

3968
02:19:16,549 --> 02:19:14,240
and

3969
02:19:17,509 --> 02:19:16,559
in the original report said that if he

3970
02:19:20,469 --> 02:19:17,519
could see

3971
02:19:21,830 --> 02:19:20,479
that guy later that afternoon downtown

3972
02:19:24,950 --> 02:19:21,840
he'd recognize him

3973
02:19:26,709 --> 02:19:24,960
that's how close he got to this guy now

3974
02:19:28,790 --> 02:19:26,719
if you look on the top of this crap it

3975
02:19:30,870 --> 02:19:28,800
has this spire or stinger

3976
02:19:31,990 --> 02:19:30,880
that goes back to term and terminates

3977
02:19:33,669 --> 02:19:32,000
into a butter

3978
02:19:35,110 --> 02:19:33,679
it's about an eight inch diameter ball

3979
02:19:36,709 --> 02:19:35,120
at the end of that that's the fourth

3980
02:19:37,990 --> 02:19:36,719
time we've heard this now

3981
02:19:40,070 --> 02:19:38,000
this is the fourth time we've heard of

3982
02:19:41,190 --> 02:19:40,080
these prongs with these balls at the end

3983
02:19:43,509 --> 02:19:41,200
of them now

3984
02:19:44,709 --> 02:19:43,519
after the air stair door cut out

3985
02:19:46,549 --> 02:19:44,719
entryway

3986
02:19:47,990 --> 02:19:46,559
there was another one of these three and

3987
02:19:50,790 --> 02:19:48,000
a half foot

3988
02:19:52,150 --> 02:19:50,800
diameter clear transparent bubble

3989
02:19:55,349 --> 02:19:52,160
portholes that was

3990
02:19:58,790 --> 02:19:55,359
divided into four equal pi segments

3991
02:20:03,670 --> 02:19:58,800
just after that steven were the letters

3992
02:20:05,750 --> 02:20:03,680
written in black lettering tl4768

3993
02:20:08,309 --> 02:20:05,760
written on the side of the craft

3994
02:20:10,389 --> 02:20:08,319
okay now as we go further toward the

3995
02:20:11,670 --> 02:20:10,399
very back of this craft it had flight

3996
02:20:13,910 --> 02:20:11,680
controls that are

3997
02:20:15,030 --> 02:20:13,920
just too small to be effective for this

3998
02:20:16,550 --> 02:20:15,040
size of a crap

3999
02:20:18,150 --> 02:20:16,560
so i don't think they were actually

4000
02:20:21,110 --> 02:20:18,160
flight controls now

4001
02:20:22,309 --> 02:20:21,120
i want to move forward here here is

4002
02:20:25,110 --> 02:20:22,319
eddie laxton's

4003
02:20:26,469 --> 02:20:25,120
original sketch and if you look at it

4004
02:20:30,550 --> 02:20:26,479
number one it's very

4005
02:20:33,190 --> 02:20:30,560
rough okay very sure number two

4006
02:20:34,309 --> 02:20:33,200
if you look at the dimensions the top

4007
02:20:37,670 --> 02:20:34,319
dimension

4008
02:20:40,150 --> 02:20:37,680
for the overall length says 75 feet

4009
02:20:41,750 --> 02:20:40,160
okay and if you look at the very right

4010
02:20:45,349 --> 02:20:41,760
hand side of the drawing

4011
02:20:47,750 --> 02:20:45,359
it says eight feet so if that represents

4012
02:20:49,590 --> 02:20:47,760
eight feet and you project that

4013
02:20:52,710 --> 02:20:49,600
dimension up to the top

4014
02:20:53,510 --> 02:20:52,720
then this thing is way out of scale 75

4015
02:20:55,270 --> 02:20:53,520
feet should be

4016
02:20:57,429 --> 02:20:55,280
way off to the left that means the

4017
02:20:58,309 --> 02:20:57,439
entire craft has to be stretched to the

4018
02:21:00,950 --> 02:20:58,319
left

4019
02:21:01,510 --> 02:21:00,960
to make it come into scale so i spent 12

4020
02:21:05,110 --> 02:21:01,520
hours

4021
02:21:06,389 --> 02:21:05,120
a day you know like an entire day going

4022
02:21:08,230 --> 02:21:06,399
over this drawing

4023
02:21:10,230 --> 02:21:08,240
trying to fix all the areas clear it

4024
02:21:12,309 --> 02:21:10,240
clear it up and this is what i came up

4025
02:21:14,550 --> 02:21:12,319
with here's the final rendering

4026
02:21:16,070 --> 02:21:14,560
of what the crap that looks more scale

4027
02:21:18,309 --> 02:21:16,080
right yep this is more

4028
02:21:19,750 --> 02:21:18,319
more to scale and again here we come

4029
02:21:22,309 --> 02:21:19,760
back to michael's

4030
02:21:23,670 --> 02:21:22,319
incredible attention to details you know

4031
02:21:25,750 --> 02:21:23,680
he wanted

4032
02:21:26,710 --> 02:21:25,760
i know how you know look i'm the same

4033
02:21:29,110 --> 02:21:26,720
way michael

4034
02:21:31,030 --> 02:21:29,120
it bothered him that this drawing was

4035
02:21:33,110 --> 02:21:31,040
not to scale so he said

4036
02:21:35,110 --> 02:21:33,120
i'm gonna take 12 hours whatever i have

4037
02:21:37,110 --> 02:21:35,120
to do i'll do some math and we'll get

4038
02:21:40,630 --> 02:21:37,120
this thing to scale and get a more

4039
02:21:42,070 --> 02:21:40,640
accurate representation of it great job

4040
02:21:43,750 --> 02:21:42,080
thank you thank you now here here's

4041
02:21:47,510 --> 02:21:43,760
another thing that points to a

4042
02:21:49,990 --> 02:21:47,520
man-made uh origin of this craft

4043
02:21:50,710 --> 02:21:50,000
that eddie lexing said that he could he

4044
02:21:53,910 --> 02:21:50,720
could see

4045
02:21:54,790 --> 02:21:53,920
on the arm the upper arm of this

4046
02:21:56,790 --> 02:21:54,800
quote-unquote

4047
02:21:58,469 --> 02:21:56,800
man wearing the two-piece military green

4048
02:22:01,429 --> 02:21:58,479
fatigues and i've got the

4049
02:22:02,309 --> 02:22:01,439
enlargement here in large view of

4050
02:22:05,349 --> 02:22:02,319
military

4051
02:22:08,070 --> 02:22:05,359
rank type symbols seen on sleeve of

4052
02:22:09,590 --> 02:22:08,080
personnel craft as identified by eddie

4053
02:22:12,630 --> 02:22:09,600
lex

4054
02:22:16,389 --> 02:22:12,640
so it had these ranking chevrons or

4055
02:22:18,630 --> 02:22:16,399
military bars right yeah that's right

4056
02:22:19,830 --> 02:22:18,640
that's right now what happened next is

4057
02:22:23,349 --> 02:22:19,840
very interesting

4058
02:22:26,070 --> 02:22:23,359
when this man this quote-unquote man

4059
02:22:27,429 --> 02:22:26,080
who was wearing this this baseball cap

4060
02:22:30,070 --> 02:22:27,439
and a flashlight

4061
02:22:31,349 --> 02:22:30,080
when he saw that he was being seen by

4062
02:22:34,309 --> 02:22:31,359
eddie laxton

4063
02:22:36,550 --> 02:22:34,319
boy did he hustle up that ladder he

4064
02:22:39,590 --> 02:22:36,560
climbed up the ladder

4065
02:22:42,389 --> 02:22:39,600
he closed oh [\h__\h] somebody's watching me

4066
02:22:43,750 --> 02:22:42,399
right yeah right that's exactly right so

4067
02:22:46,230 --> 02:22:43,760
he closes the door

4068
02:22:48,070 --> 02:22:46,240
and then stephen in the report now this

4069
02:22:50,550 --> 02:22:48,080
is this is not me talking

4070
02:22:52,389 --> 02:22:50,560
this is the actual air force project

4071
02:22:54,230 --> 02:22:52,399
blue book report you can go to the

4072
02:22:56,070 --> 02:22:54,240
national archives in washington dc yeah

4073
02:22:57,830 --> 02:22:56,080
you can read this report yeah

4074
02:22:59,510 --> 02:22:57,840
you can pull this case yourself it's a

4075
02:23:00,950 --> 02:22:59,520
project blue bookcase this is official

4076
02:23:04,950 --> 02:23:00,960
government report here

4077
02:23:07,110 --> 02:23:04,960
he said that when he closed the door

4078
02:23:08,630 --> 02:23:07,120
there was this high-pitched drilling

4079
02:23:11,510 --> 02:23:08,640
noise okay

4080
02:23:14,309 --> 02:23:11,520
like someone is engaging a whims hearst

4081
02:23:16,150 --> 02:23:14,319
generator or or powering something up

4082
02:23:18,550 --> 02:23:16,160
high-pitched drilling noise then this

4083
02:23:20,950 --> 02:23:18,560
whole thing lifted off the ground

4084
02:23:22,790 --> 02:23:20,960
it hovered there for about 30 seconds

4085
02:23:24,469 --> 02:23:22,800
and then shot away like a spark on a

4086
02:23:28,389 --> 02:23:24,479
grinding wheel and made no sonic

4087
02:23:30,630 --> 02:23:28,399
this is back in 1966 and i will add

4088
02:23:31,510 --> 02:23:30,640
a truck driver saw it as well so it

4089
02:23:34,070 --> 02:23:31,520
wasn't just

4090
02:23:35,590 --> 02:23:34,080
a single eyewitness case yeah it's

4091
02:23:36,389 --> 02:23:35,600
interesting because it looks like it has

4092
02:23:38,230 --> 02:23:36,399
some sort of

4093
02:23:40,550 --> 02:23:38,240
tails you mentioned the control surface

4094
02:23:43,030 --> 02:23:40,560
but it's tiny at the back of the craft

4095
02:23:44,710 --> 02:23:43,040
and that wouldn't be enough to affect it

4096
02:23:47,270 --> 02:23:44,720
unless it used some sort of

4097
02:23:47,990 --> 02:23:47,280
weird propulsion system and you know

4098
02:23:49,590 --> 02:23:48,000
that was just

4099
02:23:51,190 --> 02:23:49,600
needed for little adjustments or

4100
02:23:53,510 --> 02:23:51,200
something right so

4101
02:23:55,110 --> 02:23:53,520
if you follow the logic and you follow

4102
02:23:57,190 --> 02:23:55,120
the timelines and you look at the

4103
02:23:59,190 --> 02:23:57,200
newspaper clippings that

4104
02:24:01,510 --> 02:23:59,200
talk about a breakthrough being made in

4105
02:24:05,110 --> 02:24:01,520
october 1954

4106
02:24:08,230 --> 02:24:05,120
they had a good solid 10 11 years

4107
02:24:09,190 --> 02:24:08,240
to work out a prototype and here we have

4108
02:24:12,309 --> 02:24:09,200
a man

4109
02:24:15,110 --> 02:24:12,319
he's wearing a baseball cap

4110
02:24:16,710 --> 02:24:15,120
yeah unless aliens are baseball fans i

4111
02:24:18,389 --> 02:24:16,720
don't think this was aliens

4112
02:24:20,469 --> 02:24:18,399
yeah there's a high-pitched drilling

4113
02:24:22,870 --> 02:24:20,479
noise and if you if you look at this

4114
02:24:24,550 --> 02:24:22,880
spire that goes on the top of this craft

4115
02:24:26,630 --> 02:24:24,560
with the ball end of it

4116
02:24:27,990 --> 02:24:26,640
what does that you know remind you of

4117
02:24:30,309 --> 02:24:28,000
here's the actual index

4118
02:24:31,110 --> 02:24:30,319
card in this case if you go back to this

4119
02:24:33,510 --> 02:24:31,120
drawing

4120
02:24:36,230 --> 02:24:33,520
this is exactly what the downtown san

4121
02:24:38,309 --> 02:24:36,240
francisco trolley cars

4122
02:24:40,070 --> 02:24:38,319
used to use when they make contact with

4123
02:24:42,230 --> 02:24:40,080
the electrical cables above them

4124
02:24:43,910 --> 02:24:42,240
this is this is high voltage electrical

4125
02:24:45,910 --> 02:24:43,920
charge we're talking about here

4126
02:24:48,150 --> 02:24:45,920
ladies and gentlemen uh i would

4127
02:24:50,070 --> 02:24:48,160
virtually bet everything i've got

4128
02:24:51,910 --> 02:24:50,080
that this is a man-made craft this is

4129
02:24:54,070 --> 02:24:51,920
not an alien spacecraft

4130
02:24:56,230 --> 02:24:54,080
we just have to call it like we see it

4131
02:24:58,710 --> 02:24:56,240
not unless aliens have baseball caps and

4132
02:24:59,670 --> 02:24:58,720
military fatigues with sergeant bars on

4133
02:25:01,830 --> 02:24:59,680
them like we do

4134
02:25:03,110 --> 02:25:01,840
right that's right yeah this isn't

4135
02:25:07,030 --> 02:25:03,120
really strange

4136
02:25:09,190 --> 02:25:07,040
here's the daily oklahoma march 1 1971

4137
02:25:10,469 --> 02:25:09,200
that this is a picture of eddie lexton

4138
02:25:13,110 --> 02:25:10,479
himself

4139
02:25:14,389 --> 02:25:13,120
object citing now rude so what does that

4140
02:25:16,870 --> 02:25:14,399
mean it means that he

4141
02:25:17,750 --> 02:25:16,880
regretted even talking about it which

4142
02:25:20,309 --> 02:25:17,760
actually adds

4143
02:25:22,070 --> 02:25:20,319
credibility to the case because he was

4144
02:25:24,710 --> 02:25:22,080
being ridiculed

4145
02:25:26,630 --> 02:25:24,720
for even speaking about this so and the

4146
02:25:27,670 --> 02:25:26,640
truck driver saw it as well so it's not

4147
02:25:30,230 --> 02:25:27,680
just uh

4148
02:25:31,510 --> 02:25:30,240
not just eddie lexton but so there's

4149
02:25:33,429 --> 02:25:31,520
multiple witnesses to this there were

4150
02:25:34,790 --> 02:25:33,439
multiple eyewitnesses that saw it yep it

4151
02:25:36,870 --> 02:25:34,800
wasn't just him

4152
02:25:38,389 --> 02:25:36,880
that always is a convincer for me you

4153
02:25:39,510 --> 02:25:38,399
know one person seeing something is

4154
02:25:40,469 --> 02:25:39,520
something but when you have multiple

4155
02:25:42,870 --> 02:25:40,479
witnesses

4156
02:25:44,070 --> 02:25:42,880
reporting the same thing that's

4157
02:25:47,270 --> 02:25:44,080
corroboration

4158
02:25:49,349 --> 02:25:47,280
that's right so anyway uh

4159
02:25:51,190 --> 02:25:49,359
stephen thank you so much for giving me

4160
02:25:53,030 --> 02:25:51,200
the opportunity to be a part of it

4161
02:25:54,870 --> 02:25:53,040
are you kidding me this has been one of

4162
02:25:55,510 --> 02:25:54,880
my favorite shows i've ever done and by

4163
02:25:57,110 --> 02:25:55,520
the way

4164
02:25:59,510 --> 02:25:57,120
i want to thank you because this was the

4165
02:26:02,230 --> 02:25:59,520
most well attended we had over 80

4166
02:26:04,070 --> 02:26:02,240
some 85 i think in the live chat this

4167
02:26:06,469 --> 02:26:04,080
has been the most well attended

4168
02:26:07,270 --> 02:26:06,479
live stream i've ever done so oh wow

4169
02:26:10,309 --> 02:26:07,280
that's great

4170
02:26:12,630 --> 02:26:10,319
yeah yeah yeah and you know listen

4171
02:26:14,950 --> 02:26:12,640
uh for for those that don't know i'm not

4172
02:26:15,429 --> 02:26:14,960
sure but i think that you've been sort

4173
02:26:18,550 --> 02:26:15,439
of like

4174
02:26:19,990 --> 02:26:18,560
uh not doing a lot of public appearances

4175
02:26:21,670 --> 02:26:20,000
i know you're on alien scientist

4176
02:26:23,030 --> 02:26:21,680
recently but before that you were kind

4177
02:26:25,429 --> 02:26:23,040
of taking a break

4178
02:26:27,429 --> 02:26:25,439
and and i want you to know how much

4179
02:26:29,670 --> 02:26:27,439
everybody in the live chat

4180
02:26:31,429 --> 02:26:29,680
has enjoyed this and how much people

4181
02:26:33,190 --> 02:26:31,439
want to hear from you michael so i hope

4182
02:26:35,429 --> 02:26:33,200
you won't be a stranger here

4183
02:26:37,510 --> 02:26:35,439
i'll do listen i'll do anything but blow

4184
02:26:40,469 --> 02:26:37,520
you if you come back and do this again

4185
02:26:41,830 --> 02:26:40,479
okay i gotta have you as a guest again

4186
02:26:44,389 --> 02:26:41,840
i'll do anything you'll blow you

4187
02:26:45,030 --> 02:26:44,399
anything you want all right good we can

4188
02:26:52,950 --> 02:26:45,040
come back and

4189
02:26:57,110 --> 02:26:55,349
yeah i want to thank you so much because

4190
02:27:00,150 --> 02:26:57,120
you're one of the people that

4191
02:27:02,150 --> 02:27:00,160
you watching you taught me that

4192
02:27:02,870 --> 02:27:02,160
government secrets don't have to remain

4193
02:27:06,309 --> 02:27:02,880
secret

4194
02:27:08,950 --> 02:27:06,319
and i could go and look into things and

4195
02:27:09,670 --> 02:27:08,960
in some cases force the truth out of

4196
02:27:11,590 --> 02:27:09,680
them

4197
02:27:12,790 --> 02:27:11,600
whether through foia or through good

4198
02:27:14,630 --> 02:27:12,800
research or

4199
02:27:16,309 --> 02:27:14,640
talking to people that worked on

4200
02:27:19,110 --> 02:27:16,319
different projects

4201
02:27:20,389 --> 02:27:19,120
so yeah thanks very much for inspiring

4202
02:27:23,429 --> 02:27:20,399
me and so many others

4203
02:27:25,349 --> 02:27:23,439
because no problem amazing work

4204
02:27:28,469 --> 02:27:25,359
no problem i'm gonna throw you out of

4205
02:27:30,630 --> 02:27:28,479
here and we're gonna do a quick wrap-up

4206
02:27:32,389 --> 02:27:30,640
thanks so much michael i hope that you

4207
02:27:33,429 --> 02:27:32,399
won't be a stranger i can't wait to do

4208
02:27:35,190 --> 02:27:33,439
this again

4209
02:27:36,790 --> 02:27:35,200
we'll do it for sure yep all right you

4210
02:27:38,950 --> 02:27:36,800
have a great night

4211
02:27:40,469 --> 02:27:38,960
all right friends there you have it boy

4212
02:27:43,670 --> 02:27:40,479
what a data rich

4213
02:27:44,469 --> 02:27:43,680
this has been uh an amazing show for us

4214
02:27:46,950 --> 02:27:44,479
here

4215
02:27:47,590 --> 02:27:46,960
uh so i hope you will please do me a

4216
02:27:49,429 --> 02:27:47,600
favor

4217
02:27:51,670 --> 02:27:49,439
really especially in this case because

4218
02:27:53,110 --> 02:27:51,680
this one's so data rich there is so many

4219
02:27:55,270 --> 02:27:53,120
great stories here

4220
02:27:57,270 --> 02:27:55,280
so many great illustrations and jonas

4221
02:27:59,349 --> 02:27:57,280
side i might not have slides but michael

4222
02:28:01,110 --> 02:27:59,359
strat's got amazing slides and i brought

4223
02:28:03,830 --> 02:28:01,120
him here to show you his slides

4224
02:28:04,630 --> 02:28:03,840
right a great presentation what an

4225
02:28:07,750 --> 02:28:04,640
amazing

4226
02:28:09,750 --> 02:28:07,760
uh researcher and author uh

4227
02:28:11,990 --> 02:28:09,760
michael stratt is so glad to get to

4228
02:28:14,870 --> 02:28:12,000
finally speak to him in person and take

4229
02:28:16,389 --> 02:28:14,880
you guys off on the journey with me

4230
02:28:17,990 --> 02:28:16,399
listen friends you hear me say it all

4231
02:28:19,510 --> 02:28:18,000
the time i'm always happy when there's

4232
02:28:21,510 --> 02:28:19,520
an audience and tonight we had the

4233
02:28:22,230 --> 02:28:21,520
biggest audience that we've ever had

4234
02:28:24,550 --> 02:28:22,240
here

4235
02:28:26,710 --> 02:28:24,560
i can't tell you how happy i am that i

4236
02:28:28,630 --> 02:28:26,720
could take you all on this journey

4237
02:28:30,309 --> 02:28:28,640
you know uh i talked to michael a little

4238
02:28:32,870 --> 02:28:30,319
bit off there but said no

4239
02:28:34,550 --> 02:28:32,880
let's talk on air and share it with my

4240
02:28:36,389 --> 02:28:34,560
friends here at truth seekers

4241
02:28:37,590 --> 02:28:36,399
so glad that i could do that i want to

4242
02:28:40,550 --> 02:28:37,600
thank uh the

4243
02:28:41,590 --> 02:28:40,560
uh the super chat donators for tonight

4244
02:28:44,630 --> 02:28:41,600
which is caught

4245
02:28:47,990 --> 02:28:44,640
uh rylo 704 reemsie

4246
02:28:49,190 --> 02:28:48,000
and brian the cloud uh

4247
02:28:50,630 --> 02:28:49,200
thank you very much for your kindness

4248
02:28:52,389 --> 02:28:50,640
your generosity and support i want to

4249
02:28:54,710 --> 02:28:52,399
remind everybody in audio land

4250
02:28:56,550 --> 02:28:54,720
please come and look for truth seekers

4251
02:28:57,270 --> 02:28:56,560
on youtube just put true seekers one

4252
02:28:58,309 --> 02:28:57,280
word

4253
02:29:00,309 --> 02:28:58,319
look for the weird guy with the

4254
02:29:00,950 --> 02:29:00,319
sunglasses that would be me and come and

4255
02:29:03,349 --> 02:29:00,960
join us

4256
02:29:04,389 --> 02:29:03,359
in these great discussions that we have

4257
02:29:07,670 --> 02:29:04,399
during the live chat

4258
02:29:09,670 --> 02:29:07,680
until next time friends uh and listen i

4259
02:29:11,030 --> 02:29:09,680
am so happy what a great audience what a

4260
02:29:12,710 --> 02:29:11,040
great show we had tonight

4261
02:29:14,309 --> 02:29:12,720
i want to once again thank our special

4262
02:29:15,590 --> 02:29:14,319
guest michael schrad i hope he won't be

4263
02:29:17,110 --> 02:29:15,600
a stranger

4264
02:29:19,349 --> 02:29:17,120
until next time friends my name is

4265
02:29:23,380 --> 02:29:19,359
stephen campion good night and god bless

4266
02:29:34,830 --> 02:29:23,390
all of you

4267
02:29:34,840 --> 02:29:38,710
so

4268
02:30:17,990 --> 02:30:16,830
[Music]

4269
02:30:42,350 --> 02:30:18,000
so

4270
02:30:44,830 --> 02:30:42,360
[Music]

4271
02:30:47,290 --> 02:30:44,840
[Applause]

4272
02:31:15,990 --> 02:30:47,300
so

4273
02:31:19,510 --> 02:31:16,000
[Music]

4274
02:31:21,590 --> 02:31:19,520
well friends uh i was gonna stick around

4275
02:31:24,550 --> 02:31:21,600
a bit because i thought that uh

4276
02:31:26,230 --> 02:31:24,560
uh i would talk to michael off air but

4277
02:31:28,950 --> 02:31:26,240
he had to bounce out

4278
02:31:30,309 --> 02:31:28,960
uh so uh and i noticed that we had a

4279
02:31:31,270 --> 02:31:30,319
super chat and i don't want to end the

4280
02:31:33,349 --> 02:31:31,280
stream without

4281
02:31:35,590 --> 02:31:33,359
uh acknowledging that so rogue status

4282
02:31:37,990 --> 02:31:35,600
with a kind and generous five dollar

4283
02:31:40,150 --> 02:31:38,000
donation who says this show sucks much

4284
02:31:42,550 --> 02:31:40,160
less

4285
02:31:43,750 --> 02:31:42,560
yeah absolutely so listen i've got a

4286
02:31:46,469 --> 02:31:43,760
little bit more time

4287
02:31:48,550 --> 02:31:46,479
uh i'm not doing very much tonight i

4288
02:31:50,150 --> 02:31:48,560
start my nightmare this weekend though

4289
02:31:51,830 --> 02:31:50,160
which is this is the last weekend i'm

4290
02:31:53,990 --> 02:31:51,840
here without my wife and children i have

4291
02:31:56,150 --> 02:31:54,000
to clean this entire place

4292
02:31:57,590 --> 02:31:56,160
um but i've got some time tonight i'm

4293
02:32:00,389 --> 02:31:57,600
not going to start on that

4294
02:32:01,349 --> 02:32:00,399
until tomorrow morning so rogue status

4295
02:32:03,349 --> 02:32:01,359
thank you for your kindness your

4296
02:32:05,590 --> 02:32:03,359
generosity and your support

4297
02:32:06,630 --> 02:32:05,600
every dollar here goes into helping uh

4298
02:32:09,990 --> 02:32:06,640
make the show better

4299
02:32:12,150 --> 02:32:10,000
goes into helping uh you know continue

4300
02:32:13,990 --> 02:32:12,160
to move this ball forward we use the

4301
02:32:15,990 --> 02:32:14,000
money to pay for stream yard or the

4302
02:32:17,910 --> 02:32:16,000
software we use here or also to pay for

4303
02:32:20,309 --> 02:32:17,920
the distribution through

4304
02:32:21,270 --> 02:32:20,319
our audio podcast network with spreaker

4305
02:32:23,910 --> 02:32:21,280
we're now in like

4306
02:32:25,750 --> 02:32:23,920
4 12 or i don't know how many have lost

4307
02:32:29,429 --> 02:32:25,760
track of different audio

4308
02:32:31,830 --> 02:32:29,439
distribution uh platforms and so

4309
02:32:34,309 --> 02:32:31,840
we use the money to keep moving the ball

4310
02:32:37,030 --> 02:32:34,319
forward here to increase our reach

4311
02:32:38,150 --> 02:32:37,040
to get me a bigger bullhorn uh tonight

4312
02:32:40,150 --> 02:32:38,160
was

4313
02:32:41,750 --> 02:32:40,160
amazing as far as attendance goes this

4314
02:32:43,670 --> 02:32:41,760
was a really great show

4315
02:32:44,870 --> 02:32:43,680
and i honestly i learned a lesson

4316
02:32:46,950 --> 02:32:44,880
because i used to do

4317
02:32:48,710 --> 02:32:46,960
things i used to do these things like if

4318
02:32:50,389 --> 02:32:48,720
i was going to have a guest especially a

4319
02:32:52,950 --> 02:32:50,399
known guest like michael schrad or

4320
02:32:53,590 --> 02:32:52,960
or alien scientist or somebody i would

4321
02:32:55,670 --> 02:32:53,600
make

4322
02:32:56,870 --> 02:32:55,680
nice graphics and i would i would let

4323
02:32:58,950 --> 02:32:56,880
people know on twitter

4324
02:32:59,990 --> 02:32:58,960
days in advance i would tweet it out

4325
02:33:02,790 --> 02:33:00,000
five times

4326
02:33:03,270 --> 02:33:02,800
or six eight times before the appearance

4327
02:33:05,349 --> 02:33:03,280
you know

4328
02:33:06,710 --> 02:33:05,359
in the week leading up to it and i

4329
02:33:07,910 --> 02:33:06,720
haven't really been doing that so i

4330
02:33:09,750 --> 02:33:07,920
learned a lesson because

4331
02:33:11,270 --> 02:33:09,760
i just started doing that for michael

4332
02:33:12,630 --> 02:33:11,280
schratt's appearance yesterday and i

4333
02:33:14,630 --> 02:33:12,640
think it had a huge effect

4334
02:33:15,910 --> 02:33:14,640
a lot more people people were sending me

4335
02:33:18,790 --> 02:33:15,920
messages um

4336
02:33:20,070 --> 02:33:18,800
and you know i think it's important too

4337
02:33:22,150 --> 02:33:20,080
that michael know

4338
02:33:23,349 --> 02:33:22,160
uh you know how much people really want

4339
02:33:24,550 --> 02:33:23,359
to hear from him

4340
02:33:26,389 --> 02:33:24,560
so thanks rogue status for your

4341
02:33:28,710 --> 02:33:26,399
generosity and your continued support

4342
02:33:30,309 --> 02:33:28,720
there is a there is a money button down

4343
02:33:31,110 --> 02:33:30,319
there if you like shows like this and

4344
02:33:34,230 --> 02:33:31,120
you want to see

4345
02:33:36,389 --> 02:33:34,240
this good quality content continue here

4346
02:33:37,590 --> 02:33:36,399
throw us throw a couple bucks in the hat

4347
02:33:40,309 --> 02:33:37,600
failing that

4348
02:33:41,590 --> 02:33:40,319
the best other way to uh to help us is

4349
02:33:44,389 --> 02:33:41,600
to please like comment

4350
02:33:46,150 --> 02:33:44,399
subscribe and share these videos share

4351
02:33:47,910 --> 02:33:46,160
the links with your friends and share

4352
02:33:49,830 --> 02:33:47,920
our channel link on your social media

4353
02:33:51,670 --> 02:33:49,840
tell people to come and subscribe we're

4354
02:33:53,670 --> 02:33:51,680
having a good time here

4355
02:33:54,950 --> 02:33:53,680
in the live chat always good discussion

4356
02:33:56,950 --> 02:33:54,960
all are welcome

4357
02:33:59,670 --> 02:33:56,960
we have believers here we have skeptics

4358
02:34:01,990 --> 02:33:59,680
we have skeptical believers we have uh

4359
02:34:04,790 --> 02:34:02,000
you know true believers all are welcome

4360
02:34:08,870 --> 02:34:04,800
here to take part in the discussion

4361
02:34:11,990 --> 02:34:08,880
uh yes and uh jonah side is still

4362
02:34:13,590 --> 02:34:12,000
busting my balls about slides i i'll

4363
02:34:15,910 --> 02:34:13,600
have some slides but

4364
02:34:16,630 --> 02:34:15,920
now you guys are spoiled because we get

4365
02:34:19,190 --> 02:34:16,640
this

4366
02:34:20,309 --> 02:34:19,200
incredible quality level present

4367
02:34:22,230 --> 02:34:20,319
professional

4368
02:34:23,990 --> 02:34:22,240
presentation from michael schratt and

4369
02:34:25,910 --> 02:34:24,000
now i'm going to look like

4370
02:34:27,750 --> 02:34:25,920
a two-year-old with crayons trying to

4371
02:34:29,510 --> 02:34:27,760
compete with him okay

4372
02:34:31,110 --> 02:34:29,520
but i'll i'll do some slides for you

4373
02:34:33,110 --> 02:34:31,120
genocide i will

4374
02:34:34,790 --> 02:34:33,120
and bernard conkin mentions that it has

4375
02:34:36,550 --> 02:34:34,800
slides you guys are crazy with the

4376
02:34:39,750 --> 02:34:36,560
slides i'm gonna have to learn about

4377
02:34:42,550 --> 02:34:39,760
all about slides right uh

4378
02:34:43,990 --> 02:34:42,560
renee i'm a computer science guy i think

4379
02:34:46,070 --> 02:34:44,000
i can handle slides but

4380
02:34:48,469 --> 02:34:46,080
i don't own powerpoint that has been the

4381
02:34:51,110 --> 02:34:48,479
problem i'm trying to do it with uh

4382
02:34:52,870 --> 02:34:51,120
google slideshow or whatever the google

4383
02:34:53,349 --> 02:34:52,880
there's a there's a free google slide

4384
02:34:56,950 --> 02:34:53,359
thing

4385
02:34:57,670 --> 02:34:56,960
right and uh you know it's not going

4386
02:34:59,270 --> 02:34:57,680
real well

4387
02:35:01,429 --> 02:34:59,280
otherwise i would i would have had him

4388
02:35:04,150 --> 02:35:01,439
already right

4389
02:35:05,750 --> 02:35:04,160
jonas side oh man with a kind and

4390
02:35:09,110 --> 02:35:05,760
generous two dollar donation

4391
02:35:11,750 --> 02:35:09,120
forcing me to forever uh

4392
02:35:13,830 --> 02:35:11,760
make slides slides everyone loves slides

4393
02:35:14,950 --> 02:35:13,840
genocide says that and of course every

4394
02:35:17,670 --> 02:35:14,960
time genocide makes

4395
02:35:19,030 --> 02:35:17,680
a super chat donation well actually i

4396
02:35:20,630 --> 02:35:19,040
would do it even if you didn't but

4397
02:35:22,309 --> 02:35:20,640
now i'm going to be forced to hear about

4398
02:35:24,070 --> 02:35:22,319
david wilcock needs a mustache because

4399
02:35:25,910 --> 02:35:24,080
he'd be much more believable

4400
02:35:28,469 --> 02:35:25,920
and cooler looking with the mustache as

4401
02:35:31,830 --> 02:35:28,479
well right

4402
02:35:36,790 --> 02:35:35,030
my kids did animation no my kids are

4403
02:35:38,070 --> 02:35:36,800
four and nine neither of them are doing

4404
02:35:41,110 --> 02:35:38,080
animations right

4405
02:35:43,110 --> 02:35:41,120
andrew whitley uh says truth seekers

4406
02:35:45,990 --> 02:35:43,120
was a good show but we need slides

4407
02:35:48,950 --> 02:35:46,000
though you guys are killing me

4408
02:35:49,510 --> 02:35:48,960
you know what i'm gonna dig deep andrew

4409
02:35:51,510 --> 02:35:49,520
whitley

4410
02:35:53,030 --> 02:35:51,520
i'm gonna dig deep and i'm gonna do

4411
02:35:54,550 --> 02:35:53,040
slides i'm gonna dig

4412
02:35:59,830 --> 02:35:54,560
super deep and i'm going to learn to do

4413
02:36:04,150 --> 02:36:02,309
yeah bernard konkin mentioning how am i

4414
02:36:05,030 --> 02:36:04,160
supposed to compete with michael slides

4415
02:36:10,309 --> 02:36:05,040
when i do

4416
02:36:14,469 --> 02:36:12,630
oh the drawings for my comedy yeah am i

4417
02:36:16,710 --> 02:36:14,479
gonna i'm gonna make slides of cartoon

4418
02:36:18,469 --> 02:36:16,720
drawings of of like crayon drawings

4419
02:36:19,910 --> 02:36:18,479
renee that's not gonna look good after

4420
02:36:21,429 --> 02:36:19,920
somebody like michael just came here

4421
02:36:23,590 --> 02:36:21,439
with these amazing

4422
02:36:25,190 --> 02:36:23,600
crazy amazing yeah it's called google

4423
02:36:28,389 --> 02:36:25,200
slides crazy amazing

4424
02:36:31,590 --> 02:36:28,399
uh illustrations right

4425
02:36:33,349 --> 02:36:31,600
yeah and i i have to say like uh

4426
02:36:35,590 --> 02:36:33,359
you know michael schrad is really who

4427
02:36:38,870 --> 02:36:35,600
got me into the rabbit hole

4428
02:36:40,630 --> 02:36:38,880
of black budget projects and i gotta

4429
02:36:42,630 --> 02:36:40,640
tell you if you think ufos is

4430
02:36:44,230 --> 02:36:42,640
interesting go start digging into all

4431
02:36:45,990 --> 02:36:44,240
the projects that the united states

4432
02:36:48,790 --> 02:36:46,000
government is working on

4433
02:36:51,030 --> 02:36:48,800
with the black budget money these things

4434
02:36:52,710 --> 02:36:51,040
called usaps unacknowledged special

4435
02:36:54,309 --> 02:36:52,720
access projects

4436
02:36:56,230 --> 02:36:54,319
even the senators don't know what

4437
02:36:59,510 --> 02:36:56,240
they're building out there in the desert

4438
02:37:01,349 --> 02:36:59,520
and i want to know don't you

4439
02:37:02,550 --> 02:37:01,359
we'll we're going to get into it friends

4440
02:37:04,710 --> 02:37:02,560
uh we couldn't

4441
02:37:06,469 --> 02:37:04,720
you know we couldn't ha i couldn't keep

4442
02:37:08,309 --> 02:37:06,479
michael here for nine hours

4443
02:37:10,309 --> 02:37:08,319
so i thought it'd be best if we if we

4444
02:37:12,309 --> 02:37:10,319
have him talk about these obscure ufo

4445
02:37:13,830 --> 02:37:12,319
cases and this book i'm telling you i

4446
02:37:16,630 --> 02:37:13,840
love this book it's eight bucks

4447
02:37:18,550 --> 02:37:16,640
really uh give them give them give them

4448
02:37:21,750 --> 02:37:18,560
the benefit of the eight dollar doubt

4449
02:37:24,070 --> 02:37:21,760
it's it's really worth it

4450
02:37:25,750 --> 02:37:24,080
genocide said great show seriously thank

4451
02:37:28,870 --> 02:37:25,760
you i appreciate it yeah i

4452
02:37:29,910 --> 02:37:28,880
i michael schratt was on my original

4453
02:37:33,270 --> 02:37:29,920
list

4454
02:37:33,990 --> 02:37:33,280
when i started my last show the audio

4455
02:37:37,349 --> 02:37:34,000
podcast

4456
02:37:39,990 --> 02:37:37,359
uh the midnight hour i had a list of 50

4457
02:37:41,750 --> 02:37:40,000
guys in ufos that i wanted to talk to

4458
02:37:43,190 --> 02:37:41,760
and i got to tell you that i got to most

4459
02:37:43,750 --> 02:37:43,200
of them but michael stratt was one of

4460
02:37:46,710 --> 02:37:43,760
them that

4461
02:37:47,750 --> 02:37:46,720
he was busy he you know nobody knew who

4462
02:37:49,429 --> 02:37:47,760
the hell i was

4463
02:37:51,429 --> 02:37:49,439
too and uh you know when i started the

4464
02:37:52,630 --> 02:37:51,439
midnight hour show like six people would

4465
02:37:55,910 --> 02:37:52,640
listen to me

4466
02:37:56,950 --> 02:37:55,920
so guests would look at you know go i

4467
02:37:58,389 --> 02:37:56,960
don't think so

4468
02:38:00,150 --> 02:37:58,399
i don't think i want to give you two

4469
02:38:02,790 --> 02:38:00,160
hours if only you know 10 people are

4470
02:38:04,630 --> 02:38:02,800
going to listen to your show or whatever

4471
02:38:06,070 --> 02:38:04,640
or maybe michael was just busy at that

4472
02:38:07,349 --> 02:38:06,080
point but i didn't get to him for the

4473
02:38:09,510 --> 02:38:07,359
midnight hour show

4474
02:38:10,389 --> 02:38:09,520
when i started truth seekers i made a

4475
02:38:13,510 --> 02:38:10,399
new list

4476
02:38:15,670 --> 02:38:13,520
here's the ufo guys here's the guys

4477
02:38:16,790 --> 02:38:15,680
all these guests not just ufo guys but

4478
02:38:18,630 --> 02:38:16,800
different people

4479
02:38:20,790 --> 02:38:18,640
that i wanted to have as guests and

4480
02:38:21,750 --> 02:38:20,800
michael was literally at the top of that

4481
02:38:23,670 --> 02:38:21,760
list

4482
02:38:25,030 --> 02:38:23,680
and uh luckily i got to talk to him a

4483
02:38:26,070 --> 02:38:25,040
little bit when i was doing research

4484
02:38:29,510 --> 02:38:26,080
into the bob lazar

4485
02:38:29,910 --> 02:38:29,520
case because he had these um he had

4486
02:38:32,389 --> 02:38:29,920
these

4487
02:38:33,190 --> 02:38:32,399
letters from the guy you know who was at

4488
02:38:35,990 --> 02:38:33,200
testers

4489
02:38:37,110 --> 02:38:36,000
uh who designed the model with bob lazar

4490
02:38:39,830 --> 02:38:37,120
and i thought he could give me some

4491
02:38:41,750 --> 02:38:39,840
insight he was very kind and helped me

4492
02:38:43,270 --> 02:38:41,760
you know you can tell that about him

4493
02:38:45,670 --> 02:38:43,280
this guy loves to dig

4494
02:38:47,349 --> 02:38:45,680
in to research right and the level like

4495
02:38:50,790 --> 02:38:47,359
i said the level of detail

4496
02:38:52,950 --> 02:38:50,800
right yeah sixth sense powerpoint is

4497
02:38:55,030 --> 02:38:52,960
currently 139

4498
02:38:56,230 --> 02:38:55,040
on microsoft's site i refuse to pay that

4499
02:38:59,910 --> 02:38:56,240
much for it six cents

4500
02:39:02,550 --> 02:38:59,920
i will find a linux equivalent or

4501
02:39:05,110 --> 02:39:02,560
another alternative i'm not gonna pay

4502
02:39:07,030 --> 02:39:05,120
microsoft 145 dollars

4503
02:39:08,550 --> 02:39:07,040
because their software is garbage their

4504
02:39:10,309 --> 02:39:08,560
operating system is garbage

4505
02:39:11,830 --> 02:39:10,319
and the software they make is garbage

4506
02:39:13,750 --> 02:39:11,840
too

4507
02:39:14,870 --> 02:39:13,760
don't trust microsoft i'm having a real

4508
02:39:18,630 --> 02:39:14,880
tough time

4509
02:39:21,429 --> 02:39:18,640
for some reason uh stream yard

4510
02:39:22,230 --> 02:39:21,439
all of my graphics files like the

4511
02:39:24,870 --> 02:39:22,240
backgrounds

4512
02:39:28,150 --> 02:39:24,880
all of the video bumpers and everything

4513
02:39:31,030 --> 02:39:28,160
wasn't showing or was showing up like uh

4514
02:39:32,790 --> 02:39:31,040
you know like something got trunciated

4515
02:39:35,349 --> 02:39:32,800
so i couldn't use chrome tonight i'm

4516
02:39:37,510 --> 02:39:35,359
forced to use this stupid

4517
02:39:39,510 --> 02:39:37,520
windows because stream streamyard

4518
02:39:42,230 --> 02:39:39,520
sometimes doesn't like linux's

4519
02:39:43,590 --> 02:39:42,240
sound something that's there's something

4520
02:39:45,670 --> 02:39:43,600
weird with uh

4521
02:39:46,790 --> 02:39:45,680
sound sources in linux that streamyard

4522
02:39:49,349 --> 02:39:46,800
doesn't like

4523
02:39:51,510 --> 02:39:49,359
which causes me to have a lot of

4524
02:39:53,270 --> 02:39:51,520
microphones don't work in stream yard

4525
02:39:54,389 --> 02:39:53,280
but they work everywhere else in linux

4526
02:39:56,550 --> 02:39:54,399
so

4527
02:39:57,990 --> 02:39:56,560
i'm working on the issues and we'll have

4528
02:39:59,670 --> 02:39:58,000
it a lot of people commenting what a

4529
02:40:00,550 --> 02:39:59,680
good show this was thank you all very

4530
02:40:03,990 --> 02:40:00,560
much

4531
02:40:05,990 --> 02:40:04,000
uh yeah uh

4532
02:40:07,190 --> 02:40:06,000
yeah bernard conk and i will share when

4533
02:40:09,270 --> 02:40:07,200
i do find one

4534
02:40:11,429 --> 02:40:09,280
so i just wanted to really pop back here

4535
02:40:13,030 --> 02:40:11,439
and uh give some time to the live chat

4536
02:40:17,190 --> 02:40:13,040
you know i already gave my sign off so

4537
02:40:19,190 --> 02:40:17,200
it feels weird to keep continuing here

4538
02:40:20,790 --> 02:40:19,200
uh but i want to thank everybody uh

4539
02:40:22,070 --> 02:40:20,800
definitely thank everybody for coming

4540
02:40:23,750 --> 02:40:22,080
this has been uh

4541
02:40:25,190 --> 02:40:23,760
one of my favorite interviews that i've

4542
02:40:27,110 --> 02:40:25,200
ever done uh you know

4543
02:40:29,429 --> 02:40:27,120
recently i got to tell you that things

4544
02:40:31,510 --> 02:40:29,439
are really looking better for our show

4545
02:40:33,590 --> 02:40:31,520
like we're able to get guests of that

4546
02:40:35,190 --> 02:40:33,600
quality like michael schratt

4547
02:40:36,710 --> 02:40:35,200
and uh that tells me that things are

4548
02:40:38,469 --> 02:40:36,720
improving here

4549
02:40:40,469 --> 02:40:38,479
and i did i couldn't help it but i did

4550
02:40:41,830 --> 02:40:40,479
post on twitter you know some people

4551
02:40:43,990 --> 02:40:41,840
recently have tried to damage my

4552
02:40:45,030 --> 02:40:44,000
reputation or turn people away from our

4553
02:40:47,910 --> 02:40:45,040
show

4554
02:40:48,630 --> 02:40:47,920
and uh it really backfired because just

4555
02:40:50,550 --> 02:40:48,640
more people

4556
02:40:52,230 --> 02:40:50,560
wanted to check us out and see what what

4557
02:40:54,150 --> 02:40:52,240
what was the controversy what are people

4558
02:40:56,309 --> 02:40:54,160
talking about so i say

4559
02:40:57,269 --> 02:40:56,319
if you want to talk smack on me keep

4560
02:40:59,750 --> 02:40:57,279
talking because

4561
02:41:00,950 --> 02:40:59,760
it only helped you know it helped us get

4562
02:41:04,630 --> 02:41:00,960
a bigger audience

4563
02:41:07,110 --> 02:41:04,640
really and uh isn't that funny you know

4564
02:41:08,150 --> 02:41:07,120
i guess people intended me harm but

4565
02:41:09,590 --> 02:41:08,160
really helped me

4566
02:41:11,190 --> 02:41:09,600
because they kept talking and talking

4567
02:41:12,710 --> 02:41:11,200
and talking about me so much that

4568
02:41:15,110 --> 02:41:12,720
many people that have never seen our

4569
02:41:15,990 --> 02:41:15,120
show came and checked us out and decided

4570
02:41:18,230 --> 02:41:16,000
they liked us and

4571
02:41:19,429 --> 02:41:18,240
some of them are staying or continuing

4572
02:41:22,389 --> 02:41:19,439
to come every show

4573
02:41:22,950 --> 02:41:22,399
which is that is a great great thing

4574
02:41:25,750 --> 02:41:22,960
yeah

4575
02:41:27,190 --> 02:41:25,760
so uh i don't know what else to say here

4576
02:41:30,389 --> 02:41:27,200
friends i just didn't want to

4577
02:41:31,750 --> 02:41:30,399
end the stream without a and oh renee

4578
02:41:34,870 --> 02:41:31,760
says 65 likes

4579
02:41:35,590 --> 02:41:34,880
awesome yes please do smash that like

4580
02:41:37,670 --> 02:41:35,600
button

4581
02:41:39,269 --> 02:41:37,680
and also i noticed something on google

4582
02:41:42,389 --> 02:41:39,279
analytics

4583
02:41:43,990 --> 02:41:42,399
a lot of people uh a lot of people say

4584
02:41:46,710 --> 02:41:44,000
oh i never get a notification

4585
02:41:49,429 --> 02:41:46,720
from youtube when your show's on but it

4586
02:41:53,190 --> 02:41:49,439
seems like there's only like

4587
02:41:55,429 --> 02:41:53,200
i think it's something like 250 people

4588
02:41:56,790 --> 02:41:55,439
have hit the notification bell so

4589
02:41:59,910 --> 02:41:56,800
certainly if we've got

4590
02:42:02,070 --> 02:41:59,920
you know 16 or 1700 subscribers

4591
02:42:03,670 --> 02:42:02,080
it's only sending the notification if

4592
02:42:06,150 --> 02:42:03,680
you hit the notification bell

4593
02:42:07,349 --> 02:42:06,160
right so hit that notification bell and

4594
02:42:09,510 --> 02:42:07,359
then you'll get a notice

4595
02:42:11,110 --> 02:42:09,520
that we're going live for a live show

4596
02:42:13,349 --> 02:42:11,120
every time we do

4597
02:42:14,950 --> 02:42:13,359
the other best way to know when we're

4598
02:42:16,950 --> 02:42:14,960
doing a show is to just follow me on

4599
02:42:19,590 --> 02:42:16,960
twitter it's at stevencambian

4600
02:42:21,990 --> 02:42:19,600
on twitter my name right there one word

4601
02:42:24,550 --> 02:42:22,000
at stevencampion on twitter

4602
02:42:25,429 --> 02:42:24,560
follow me on uh twitter i announce each

4603
02:42:27,750 --> 02:42:25,439
show

4604
02:42:28,950 --> 02:42:27,760
sometime before we do them i'm trying to

4605
02:42:31,190 --> 02:42:28,960
improve on that

4606
02:42:32,790 --> 02:42:31,200
but generally we're we're doing sunday

4607
02:42:35,830 --> 02:42:32,800
through thursday

4608
02:42:37,910 --> 02:42:35,840
nine p.m eastern standard time though i

4609
02:42:40,309 --> 02:42:37,920
am thinking of changing that because

4610
02:42:43,110 --> 02:42:40,319
there's an awful lot of shows at 10 p.m

4611
02:42:45,269 --> 02:42:43,120
and i can see sometimes the drop-off in

4612
02:42:47,110 --> 02:42:45,279
other words the show starts at nine

4613
02:42:48,469 --> 02:42:47,120
takes a while for people to fill in the

4614
02:42:51,110 --> 02:42:48,479
live chat about 9

4615
02:42:51,830 --> 02:42:51,120
30 we reach the peak of our viewership

4616
02:42:54,230 --> 02:42:51,840
and then

4617
02:42:56,469 --> 02:42:54,240
1001 it seems like a lot of people jump

4618
02:43:01,510 --> 02:42:56,479
out to go to another show so we may move

4619
02:43:05,830 --> 02:43:03,670
wow i thought i did fix it maybe i'm

4620
02:43:07,269 --> 02:43:05,840
copying and pasting from the wrong one i

4621
02:43:08,790 --> 02:43:07,279
did fix it in one of them

4622
02:43:10,469 --> 02:43:08,800
sixth sense sixth sense is reminding me

4623
02:43:12,790 --> 02:43:10,479
i need to fix my paypal link

4624
02:43:15,110 --> 02:43:12,800
yes and i wanna uh take a moment to

4625
02:43:16,630 --> 02:43:15,120
thank everybody who supports us there's

4626
02:43:18,230 --> 02:43:16,640
there's a few ways to support us there's

4627
02:43:19,670 --> 02:43:18,240
that money button in the live chat

4628
02:43:20,630 --> 02:43:19,680
that's a super chat or you can buy a

4629
02:43:23,590 --> 02:43:20,640
super sticker

4630
02:43:24,469 --> 02:43:23,600
to support our show we read every super

4631
02:43:26,070 --> 02:43:24,479
chat and thank

4632
02:43:28,870 --> 02:43:26,080
everyone for their kindness their

4633
02:43:31,190 --> 02:43:28,880
generosity and their support

4634
02:43:32,230 --> 02:43:31,200
or you can sign up on patreon where we

4635
02:43:35,750 --> 02:43:32,240
do a monthly

4636
02:43:38,550 --> 02:43:35,760
backstage pass and journal and i post

4637
02:43:40,469 --> 02:43:38,560
pictures of things and you know you get

4638
02:43:41,910 --> 02:43:40,479
sort of a preview on patreon for as

4639
02:43:42,389 --> 02:43:41,920
little as a dollar a month the other

4640
02:43:45,670 --> 02:43:42,399
thing

4641
02:43:47,910 --> 02:43:45,680
is to um the other way you can support

4642
02:43:49,750 --> 02:43:47,920
us is by making a paypal donation and

4643
02:43:51,750 --> 02:43:49,760
the link is supposed to be in the about

4644
02:43:53,750 --> 02:43:51,760
it is in the about section if you go to

4645
02:43:55,510 --> 02:43:53,760
the about section of our channel here

4646
02:43:57,750 --> 02:43:55,520
truthseekers on youtube and click the

4647
02:43:59,670 --> 02:43:57,760
about button you'll see donate by paypal

4648
02:44:02,870 --> 02:43:59,680
donate by patreon

4649
02:44:09,910 --> 02:44:02,880
um yeah i would appreciate

4650
02:44:15,590 --> 02:44:13,269
yes and people are aj is saying uh

4651
02:44:17,110 --> 02:44:15,600
get ms to do a follow-up show focusing

4652
02:44:19,510 --> 02:44:17,120
on australian events

4653
02:44:20,630 --> 02:44:19,520
we're hoping to have victor cagliaro uh

4654
02:44:24,550 --> 02:44:20,640
on

4655
02:44:26,630 --> 02:44:24,560
can also maybe have

4656
02:44:27,990 --> 02:44:26,640
uh daniel from the context we haven't

4657
02:44:29,269 --> 02:44:28,000
heard from him in a while and would like

4658
02:44:32,630 --> 02:44:29,279
to catch up with him and

4659
02:44:35,030 --> 02:44:32,640
what he's working on what he's up to uh

4660
02:44:37,349 --> 02:44:35,040
yeah renee renee mentioning that a few

4661
02:44:40,630 --> 02:44:37,359
people asked about australia ufos

4662
02:44:41,349 --> 02:44:40,640
yeah absolutely uh i'm down for that

4663
02:44:43,429 --> 02:44:41,359
because i don't

4664
02:44:44,790 --> 02:44:43,439
know very much about australian ufo

4665
02:44:48,070 --> 02:44:44,800
cases except for

4666
02:44:49,910 --> 02:44:48,080
the few most well-known right and yes

4667
02:44:52,950 --> 02:44:49,920
sixth sense i will uh

4668
02:44:54,309 --> 02:44:52,960
i will fix that i did fix it and then i

4669
02:44:56,630 --> 02:44:54,319
think what happened is that i

4670
02:44:58,630 --> 02:44:56,640
i am now copying and pasting from the

4671
02:45:00,710 --> 02:44:58,640
pre-fixed version of it

4672
02:45:02,150 --> 02:45:00,720
so uh i will work on that six cents and

4673
02:45:02,550 --> 02:45:02,160
yes you should always let me know about

4674
02:45:04,630 --> 02:45:02,560
that

4675
02:45:06,230 --> 02:45:04,640
i have a bad show host i gotta get

4676
02:45:08,309 --> 02:45:06,240
better at doing a lot of this stuff

4677
02:45:10,070 --> 02:45:08,319
wearing a lot of hats here definitely

4678
02:45:12,469 --> 02:45:10,080
wearing a lot of hats here

4679
02:45:13,269 --> 02:45:12,479
so uh i was mentioning the ways to

4680
02:45:15,269 --> 02:45:13,279
support us

4681
02:45:16,790 --> 02:45:15,279
uh financially there's those three ways

4682
02:45:17,429 --> 02:45:16,800
to support us you can make a paypal

4683
02:45:19,670 --> 02:45:17,439
donation

4684
02:45:20,950 --> 02:45:19,680
you can support us on patreon for as

4685
02:45:22,790 --> 02:45:20,960
little as a dollar a month and get the

4686
02:45:24,389 --> 02:45:22,800
patreon benefits and by the way i just

4687
02:45:26,150 --> 02:45:24,399
want to mention i know it's a rough time

4688
02:45:28,469 --> 02:45:26,160
so if you really like the show

4689
02:45:29,830 --> 02:45:28,479
just send me an email at truthseekershow

4690
02:45:32,469 --> 02:45:29,840
gmail.com

4691
02:45:34,070 --> 02:45:32,479
and just say hey i'd like to paypal or

4692
02:45:35,830 --> 02:45:34,080
excuse me hey i'd like the patreon

4693
02:45:37,510 --> 02:45:35,840
benefits i'm having a tough time right

4694
02:45:39,349 --> 02:45:37,520
now or something like that don't give me

4695
02:45:41,590 --> 02:45:39,359
any details i don't need to know

4696
02:45:42,870 --> 02:45:41,600
you know the details but if you really

4697
02:45:45,349 --> 02:45:42,880
like the show and you

4698
02:45:46,790 --> 02:45:45,359
you support the show i'd be happy to put

4699
02:45:48,630 --> 02:45:46,800
we have a list of people that are in

4700
02:45:49,750 --> 02:45:48,640
reduced circumstances or whatever's

4701
02:45:51,429 --> 02:45:49,760
going on

4702
02:45:52,950 --> 02:45:51,439
uh maybe they you don't have a paypal

4703
02:45:54,309 --> 02:45:52,960
account to sign up for patreon or

4704
02:45:57,030 --> 02:45:54,319
whatever

4705
02:45:58,630 --> 02:45:57,040
i'd much rather give the stuff away for

4706
02:46:01,670 --> 02:45:58,640
free to people who really want it

4707
02:46:03,990 --> 02:46:01,680
than for people to not get it right

4708
02:46:05,670 --> 02:46:04,000
so you can always do that as well and

4709
02:46:08,309 --> 02:46:05,680
the other best way to support us

4710
02:46:10,550 --> 02:46:08,319
is to like comment and share send these

4711
02:46:13,190 --> 02:46:10,560
videos to some friends right

4712
02:46:15,030 --> 02:46:13,200
that really does help because people are

4713
02:46:17,110 --> 02:46:15,040
finding us more and more

4714
02:46:18,070 --> 02:46:17,120
and most of it is word of mouth most of

4715
02:46:20,550 --> 02:46:18,080
it is people

4716
02:46:21,830 --> 02:46:20,560
sending their friends here going you've

4717
02:46:23,429 --> 02:46:21,840
got to go watch this show

4718
02:46:25,349 --> 02:46:23,439
if you like this stuff you would you

4719
02:46:29,190 --> 02:46:25,359
would enjoy this right

4720
02:46:32,389 --> 02:46:29,200
uh definitely uh definitely helps

4721
02:46:33,670 --> 02:46:32,399
and it definitely helps with the uh

4722
02:46:36,309 --> 02:46:33,680
it definitely helps with the search

4723
02:46:38,870 --> 02:46:36,319
algorithms too engagement is

4724
02:46:40,710 --> 02:46:38,880
king with youtube so in other words if

4725
02:46:42,710 --> 02:46:40,720
you comment it helps us

4726
02:46:44,389 --> 02:46:42,720
if you like smash the like button it

4727
02:46:44,870 --> 02:46:44,399
helps us if you hit the notification

4728
02:46:46,870 --> 02:46:44,880
bell

4729
02:46:48,389 --> 02:46:46,880
it helps it helps both of us because

4730
02:46:50,150 --> 02:46:48,399
then you know when the show is

4731
02:46:52,150 --> 02:46:50,160
and then my audience is bigger because

4732
02:46:55,510 --> 02:46:52,160
they know when there's a show

4733
02:46:57,830 --> 02:46:55,520
right so

4734
02:46:59,190 --> 02:46:57,840
those are the ways right it's not always

4735
02:47:01,910 --> 02:46:59,200
about money sometimes

4736
02:47:03,110 --> 02:47:01,920
honestly you can help me a lot more by

4737
02:47:06,150 --> 02:47:03,120
posting these videos

4738
02:47:08,389 --> 02:47:06,160
on your social media right by

4739
02:47:09,349 --> 02:47:08,399
uh sharing with your friends because

4740
02:47:11,990 --> 02:47:09,359
then the show will

4741
02:47:14,309 --> 02:47:12,000
grow and you know i'm not that concerned

4742
02:47:15,990 --> 02:47:14,319
with the finances of the show right now

4743
02:47:17,510 --> 02:47:16,000
mostly we have everything we need we

4744
02:47:19,590 --> 02:47:17,520
have a few bills every month that we

4745
02:47:23,269 --> 02:47:19,600
have to pay for the software or for

4746
02:47:24,150 --> 02:47:23,279
whatever you know uh whatever it is that

4747
02:47:25,590 --> 02:47:24,160
we need here

4748
02:47:27,750 --> 02:47:25,600
but most of the major equipment and

4749
02:47:29,750 --> 02:47:27,760
everything has already been purchased so

4750
02:47:31,750 --> 02:47:29,760
really we're just looking into what we

4751
02:47:35,110 --> 02:47:31,760
can do with the funds to

4752
02:47:36,790 --> 02:47:35,120
continue to grow the show and we may be

4753
02:47:38,469 --> 02:47:36,800
doing facebook ads and a few other

4754
02:47:42,070 --> 02:47:38,479
things to try to increase our

4755
02:47:43,590 --> 02:47:42,080
our viewership here and i definitely

4756
02:47:45,349 --> 02:47:43,600
want to take a moment to thank all the

4757
02:47:47,750 --> 02:47:45,359
super chat donators

4758
02:47:49,349 --> 02:47:47,760
the paypal donators and the patreon

4759
02:47:51,110 --> 02:47:49,359
people because this is a viewer

4760
02:47:52,710 --> 02:47:51,120
supported show and you're making you're

4761
02:47:53,910 --> 02:47:52,720
helping to make all this possible you're

4762
02:47:56,469 --> 02:47:53,920
helping me

4763
02:47:57,750 --> 02:47:56,479
to basically buy time to do more of this

4764
02:48:00,150 --> 02:47:57,760
and i can't tell you

4765
02:48:00,950 --> 02:48:00,160
i have such an attitude of gratitude

4766
02:48:03,030 --> 02:48:00,960
about

4767
02:48:04,950 --> 02:48:03,040
the everybody that has been so kind and

4768
02:48:07,670 --> 02:48:04,960
generous to support our show

4769
02:48:08,309 --> 02:48:07,680
it really means a lot to me uh first of

4770
02:48:11,349 --> 02:48:08,319
all it means

4771
02:48:13,590 --> 02:48:11,359
a lot to me that anybody's listening

4772
02:48:15,190 --> 02:48:13,600
you know we have a niche subject here

4773
02:48:18,630 --> 02:48:15,200
you know we're a subculture

4774
02:48:23,030 --> 02:48:21,429
but i i really feel blessed by all the

4775
02:48:24,870 --> 02:48:23,040
people that have really

4776
02:48:26,230 --> 02:48:24,880
thrown some money in the hat and said

4777
02:48:29,429 --> 02:48:26,240
good work keep it up

4778
02:48:31,429 --> 02:48:29,439
right and i've had this weird

4779
02:48:33,830 --> 02:48:31,439
deja vu feeling today because four or

4780
02:48:37,349 --> 02:48:33,840
five people told me something like

4781
02:48:38,950 --> 02:48:37,359
uh your voice is very needed

4782
02:48:41,269 --> 02:48:38,960
you know keep doing what you're doing

4783
02:48:45,030 --> 02:48:41,279
and that makes me feel great as well

4784
02:48:47,190 --> 02:48:45,040
right how can it not so uh

4785
02:48:48,950 --> 02:48:47,200
yeah that's where we're at and i do want

4786
02:48:50,550 --> 02:48:48,960
to remind everybody listening in audio

4787
02:48:51,190 --> 02:48:50,560
podcast lane i'm going to remind you

4788
02:48:53,110 --> 02:48:51,200
once again

4789
02:48:54,790 --> 02:48:53,120
come over to youtube search for truth

4790
02:48:56,790 --> 02:48:54,800
seekers on youtube

4791
02:48:58,150 --> 02:48:56,800
just put truth seekers in the youtube

4792
02:48:59,349 --> 02:48:58,160
search bar look for the guy with the

4793
02:49:01,910 --> 02:48:59,359
sunglasses

4794
02:49:02,950 --> 02:49:01,920
click that subscribe button because that

4795
02:49:08,710 --> 02:49:02,960
really does

4796
02:49:10,070 --> 02:49:08,720
the youtube channel this is the main hub

4797
02:49:12,309 --> 02:49:10,080
is the youtube channel

4798
02:49:15,110 --> 02:49:12,319
it is the root of truth seekers and

4799
02:49:17,349 --> 02:49:15,120
everything comes from there

4800
02:49:19,190 --> 02:49:17,359
rylo 74 says i'll try to be more active

4801
02:49:21,030 --> 02:49:19,200
in chat you guys are awesome yeah you'll

4802
02:49:22,710 --> 02:49:21,040
always have a good time here we have a

4803
02:49:26,469 --> 02:49:22,720
nice bunch of people

4804
02:49:28,630 --> 02:49:26,479
uh you know uh it definitely is a good

4805
02:49:30,710 --> 02:49:28,640
crowd of people and we have a great

4806
02:49:31,590 --> 02:49:30,720
audience here we all get together we

4807
02:49:34,070 --> 02:49:31,600
discuss

4808
02:49:35,190 --> 02:49:34,080
these cases and these strange mysterious

4809
02:49:38,469 --> 02:49:35,200
things

4810
02:49:41,750 --> 02:49:38,479
we all have similar interests uh and and

4811
02:49:43,590 --> 02:49:41,760
it works out really really well um

4812
02:49:45,429 --> 02:49:43,600
and you are most welcome especially if

4813
02:49:46,870 --> 02:49:45,439
you're listening in audio podcast land

4814
02:49:48,870 --> 02:49:46,880
you're missing half of

4815
02:49:50,070 --> 02:49:48,880
of the show which is the interactive

4816
02:49:52,469 --> 02:49:50,080
part you hear me

4817
02:49:53,590 --> 02:49:52,479
i'm interacting live with the live chat

4818
02:49:55,750 --> 02:49:53,600
we read

4819
02:49:57,670 --> 02:49:55,760
lots of comments we take questions from

4820
02:49:59,910 --> 02:49:57,680
the audience and you too can be a part

4821
02:50:02,469 --> 02:49:59,920
of that

4822
02:50:03,510 --> 02:50:02,479
yes and chat interactions also do count

4823
02:50:06,230 --> 02:50:03,520
in analytics

4824
02:50:07,590 --> 02:50:06,240
they count every chat message that goes

4825
02:50:10,070 --> 02:50:07,600
into live chat

4826
02:50:11,590 --> 02:50:10,080
so that even even coming here and

4827
02:50:13,030 --> 02:50:11,600
participating in the live chat and

4828
02:50:16,070 --> 02:50:13,040
writing a few messages in

4829
02:50:18,790 --> 02:50:16,080
really really does help um so

4830
02:50:20,469 --> 02:50:18,800
listen i i i want to thank once again

4831
02:50:23,510 --> 02:50:20,479
want to thank our guest

4832
02:50:25,269 --> 02:50:23,520
tonight the one the only

4833
02:50:27,429 --> 02:50:25,279
incredible researcher author and

4834
02:50:29,190 --> 02:50:27,439
lecturer michael stratt

4835
02:50:31,269 --> 02:50:29,200
i want to thank you all for coming here

4836
02:50:33,030 --> 02:50:31,279
and spending some time with me

4837
02:50:34,790 --> 02:50:33,040
because honestly i could have thought of

4838
02:50:36,630 --> 02:50:34,800
i had a really good time tonight and you

4839
02:50:37,110 --> 02:50:36,640
know i gotta admit that sometimes doing

4840
02:50:38,710 --> 02:50:37,120
the show

4841
02:50:40,230 --> 02:50:38,720
i don't feel like doing it i'm not

4842
02:50:42,389 --> 02:50:40,240
really feeling it that night tonight i

4843
02:50:44,550 --> 02:50:42,399
was feeling it i had a great time

4844
02:50:46,150 --> 02:50:44,560
talking to a great guest and i gotta

4845
02:50:48,710 --> 02:50:46,160
have more of that in my life

4846
02:50:49,590 --> 02:50:48,720
so that it doesn't feel like work it

4847
02:50:52,150 --> 02:50:49,600
feels like

4848
02:50:54,230 --> 02:50:52,160
this is exactly what i tonight i did

4849
02:50:55,110 --> 02:50:54,240
exactly what i wanted to do with my

4850
02:50:57,429 --> 02:50:55,120
night

4851
02:50:58,550 --> 02:50:57,439
and i got to take you guys along with me

4852
02:51:00,389 --> 02:50:58,560
thanks so much for

4853
02:51:01,750 --> 02:51:00,399
uh coming here and being in the audience

4854
02:51:04,309 --> 02:51:01,760
i'm gonna say it again

4855
02:51:05,349 --> 02:51:04,319
uh until next time friends my name is

4856
02:51:22,670 --> 02:51:05,359
steven cambion

4857
02:51:32,880 --> 02:51:30,830
[Music]

4858
02:52:01,780 --> 02:51:32,890
so

4859
02:52:29,100 --> 02:52:09,360
[Music]

4860
02:52:38,200 --> 02:52:29,110
so

4861
02:52:40,960 --> 02:52:38,210
[Music]